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Canadian 1870 5 Cents Narrow Border, 7/7?

JohnPhiloponusJohnPhiloponus Posts: 56 ✭✭✭
edited October 25, 2025 6:03AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

This sure is a beauty! Does anyone have an opinion if this is 7/7 or just the plain 7 variety?

Collector of Victoria, Edward VII, George V and George VI Canadian; and most anything U.S. I am currently looking for early Lincolns, raw in XF or better.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2025 6:58AM

    Looks like a regular 7 with a bit of Machine Doubling.
    The 7/7 shows the doubling north of the 7.
    Also looks like there is some die clashing on the obverse

  • I missed the die clashing. It is pretty obvious, now that you mention it Thanks!

    Collector of Victoria, Edward VII, George V and George VI Canadian; and most anything U.S. I am currently looking for early Lincolns, raw in XF or better.

  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭✭

    Agreed, not the 7/7 but die deterioration. The true 7/7 shows the top of the 7 doubled to the north by approx. 1/3 of its thickness (width).

    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2025 6:58AM

    first look as posted say 7/7. however, there are some 7/7 where u can not immediately see it. have to enlarge to be sure.
    enlarging this is not working for me. not sharp enough.
    super nice coin.

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • Collector of Victoria, Edward VII, George V and George VI Canadian; and most anything U.S. I am currently looking for early Lincolns, raw in XF or better.

  • The grade is AU-58. There should be a grade of AU-59.9.

    Collector of Victoria, Edward VII, George V and George VI Canadian; and most anything U.S. I am currently looking for early Lincolns, raw in XF or better.

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2025 9:20AM

    OK John,
    very nice coi. I say it is 7/7. It is too bat PCGS does not bother to ID as they have the tools to do it beyond a daubt. Guess the mighty $$$$ is in the way of a 1 minute check.
    here is a little trick .
    in addition to your lightsource use LED small white-light flashlite. hold it at any angle pointing to the coin and try from top. I can watch the result changes on my large monitor connected to my Camera.
    sometimes it completely eliminates the MD on the coin, the lens picks it up and shows the true strike. It sharply outlines the actual strike, often eliminates the shadow created by MD or your own light source OR not having the camer at an 90 degr angle to the coin
    Try it, it might work for you and it is fun to experiment. II was often surprised... but it works. also, try to reverse view the coin 90 degr
    I have all above done it with any size and any metal.
    H

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here are the dates of the 4 I ever had (sold)
    you guys decide whats what. 3 of them where ICCS and one raw.


    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,559 ✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    here are the dates of the 4 I ever had (sold)
    you guys decide whats what. 3 of them where ICCS and one raw.

    The top one looks like it may be a 7/7, the others no. The 7/7 that PCGS recognizes is shown on page 63 of the 77th edition of Charlton.

    Gene

    Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
    Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors

    Collector of:
    Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
    Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
    My Ebay
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