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OPC rough cuts… How is PSA grading on these with all the changes?

Used to be able to get good grades with rough cuts… Truly shows that a card has not been trimmed… I have a few I was thinking of sending in, but not sure how PSA is handling them now… I would hate to get killed on them because of the rough





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  • HarnessracingHarnessracing Posts: 533 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2025 8:29PM

    I’ve seen them grade them like it’s normal and I’ve seen them destroy them. Yours are pretty decent, 2nd Jackson and first Molitor in particular.
    I have cut cases from 86 and 87 and have been thinking about opening one of each.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very hit or miss. I sent some 79s a year or so ago in different subs. Some were actually graded high but the low ones were really low

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think a lot of it is eye appeal. Those are some "hairy" cards!

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2025 6:37AM

    I sent in cards exactly like that thinking 9s and only sent in centered cards.I got 6-7s only

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    I sent in cards exactly like that thinking 9s and only sent in centered cards.I got 6-7s only

    Yep. My low subs were also around the 6s. It’s really luck of the draw with who grades on these.

    I only sent the centered too. A bummer some graders don’t seem familiar with those cuts.

  • 1982FBWaxMemories1982FBWaxMemories Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2025 12:09PM

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭✭

    ^^^^^^^

    Not graded by Grader Of Death, but rather Grader Of Immense Generosity. Where are you now??????

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All of the major grading companies seem to be consistently tough on the Ryan(no experience with the others). I had one graded by "old SGC" 15+ years ago. 2 dealers inspected the card and thought it had a very good chance at 96/9......it came back 86/7.5!

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2025 7:04PM

    It’s a real nice 7 though. I would get it signed. Thats a great example. Never know how they’re gonna treat the mold.

    I think they’re a grade or two harder on rough edges than they were 5-10 years ago.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    they grade the surface much different than they used. i used ti get 9's and 10's consistently. now since the cardboard used by opc was terrible, they grade the cardboard no more than 7's for the most part. sgc is the same way. the schmidt would be no more than 8 today probably a 7, really sad.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, you get slight wrinkles on the surface of the OPC up to the mid 80's, especially with hockey. So it could be a dead grade before they even take the rough cut into consideration.

  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they're following the sentiment of modern collectors.
    You see cards like this on social media and the comments go berserk!
    "How is that a 10 when my pack pulled blue wave refractor came back a 6 ?!"
    And there's so many modern card posts asking "Why is this 6 or 7 or whatever?"
    The card may have one slight white dot corner, the comments will justify the grade saying the corner is "busted up."
    Hypercritical and harsh.
    PSA may just be following their lead as to what is acceptable to the next gen collector, and it's changing the landscape.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RonSportscards said:
    I think they're following the sentiment of modern collectors.
    You see cards like this on social media and the comments go berserk!
    "How is that a 10 when my pack pulled blue wave refractor came back a 6 ?!"
    And there's so many modern card posts asking "Why is this 6 or 7 or whatever?"
    The card may have one slight white dot corner, the comments will justify the grade saying the corner is "busted up."
    Hypercritical and harsh.
    PSA may just be following their lead as to what is acceptable to the next gen collector, and it's changing the landscape.

    Depends on who is grading it, maybe?

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 869 ✭✭✭✭

    Pretty soon people may only be grading fresh new Pokemon.
    Very sad.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sadness is looking at all those books of Pokemon cards my kids have from the past 15 years and telling them how much those cards would have been worth had they not used them as frisbees. "That page would have been worth a house on the beach!"

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pdoidoi said:
    Pretty soon people may only be grading fresh new Pokemon.
    Very sad.

    I don't think the grading companies will be very sad about that!

    All us vintage folks are a dying breed (sometimes literally).

  • 1982FBWaxMemories1982FBWaxMemories Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BBBrkrr said:

    @pdoidoi said:
    Pretty soon people may only be grading fresh new Pokemon.
    Very sad.

    I don't think the grading companies will be very sad about that!

    All us vintage folks are a dying breed (sometimes literally).

    Still a bunch of new threads here trying to hype and pump vintage as jumping across board. But what u say is very true!

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • 19541954 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭

    PSA has been brutal on them, just like every other product they grade. But they have been extremely unforgiving on OPC. I really think some of the graders don't know the difference between the cuts.

    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
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