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jerryski59jerryski59 Posts: 6

Hi so I just got back my Wayne Gretzky O Pee Cee rookie card PSA 8 and the upchare was $1449 Canadian seems a little hi but not sure ?

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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cards sells between 12,000 and 16,000.
    So yeah thats right they charge.
    "$999.00/Card

    Max Insured Value: $25,000 or less

    Estimated Turnaround Time: 5 Business Days"

  • HarnessracingHarnessracing Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭

    That’s correct

  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What service level/dollar per card did you submit your 10K+ card at? What did you think it would grade?

  • I used vintage through PSA Canada $700 per card as collector level deal . I believe you can't pay for a grad as i always say buy the card not the grade

  • UlyssesExtravaganzaUlyssesExtravaganza Posts: 836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have sometimes wondered if you could buy a grade. I think maybe if you have name recognition and are a customer who has bought tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars or more of product, even if you submit one card, that subjective on the fence borderline situation tilts your way more often than it does for Shady Joe who submits 10 cards a year at the lowest rate.

    I have sometimes believed that the $50 to $100 a card rate may mean your grades dont disappoint the way they may on the 18.99 special. But not so sure about that in August 2025. The influencer guy who did his Youtube video of his Express Service at The National, which turned into a thread on these boards, may have proven that. I assume that was not cheap.

  • sportscardstopsportscardstop Posts: 532 ✭✭✭

    A lot of people don't like upcharges. Even the owner. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If everyone boycotts PSA I will too. I don’t like them either.

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭

    @sportscardstop said:
    A lot of people don't like upcharges. Even the owner. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177

    I like how he used the word “extortion”.

    Farewell Ryno.

  • 1982FBWaxMemories1982FBWaxMemories Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They were not wrong then....Now those small fish there would never have to worry about upcharges

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't submitted much lately. When I do, I've started using one grade below what I think it should grade when deciding on the service level for cards worth more than the bulk level. That way I'm not overpaying for undergraded cards. They can upcharge me all they want in that case.

  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 553 ✭✭✭

    What if PSA thinks a card is an 8. But, if they give it a 9 they get an extra 500 bucks on an upcharge? Isn't that incentive to over grade cards?

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, clearly the incentives are to keep pops low and protect pricing. As retail trading has proven, humans love to gamble and difficulty in achieving a high grade actually incentivizes submission velocity, no matter how much we grumble about it.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @80sOPC said:
    No, clearly the incentives are to keep pops low and protect pricing. As retail trading has proven, humans love to gamble and difficulty in achieving a high grade actually incentivizes submission velocity, no matter how much we grumble about it.

    I agree with you on that for sure.

    That works as long as the customer thinks the process is fair and legitimate. Otherwise, you have to depend on a continuous stream of new customers using your system to replace the ones that get frustrated and quit because they feel the deck is stacked against success.

    Fine line between those. Too far one way and you lose value for your service, and too far the other way and the customer loses trust in your company.

  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 553 ✭✭✭

    @80sOPC said:
    No, clearly the incentives are to keep pops low and protect pricing. As retail trading has proven, humans love to gamble and difficulty in achieving a high grade actually incentivizes submission velocity, no matter how much we grumble about it.

    Why does PSA care if the prices are high or low?

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seriously? Why would PSA care if their slabs sell for huge amounts of money? Is that your question?

  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 553 ✭✭✭

    Buy the card, not the slab, right?

    You're kinda suggesting that PSA is manipulating the market.

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