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2025 Libertads

Just received an email from a reliable source regarding 2025 Libertads.

Yearly Libertad production is always an adventure for those who follow them. The source said the Bank of Mexico will produce NO gold Libertads for 2025. Also, there will be NO 7 coin proof silver sets produced as well. The only Libertads mentioned that will be produced are 1 oz BU silver and that will be limited to 300 total (prior years have seen production rates averaging around 300k-400k for the 1oz BU). There was no mention of all other sizes and versions regarding production.

And Mexico is the world's largest silver producer by a wide margin.

Hmm.

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  • KiwiNumiKiwiNumi Posts: 210 ✭✭✭

    300 total silver libertads or 300k?

  • badhop55badhop55 Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    Well, it looked like they were getting only 300 total 1 oz BU coins to distribute. Normally they have a lot more. As is normal with Libertads it's a bit confusing.

    I'd read on another source that this year's production was going to be "not normal".

    Guess we'll see.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmm, I have followed this series and they have done some somewhat strange things but I would take that 300 figure with a grain of salt.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • badhop55badhop55 Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    Came across this article by Louis Golino dated 2 June 2025.

    https://readingroom.money.org/a-black-swan-for-the-libertad-series/

    Pretty much lays out the entire situation.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2025 1:32AM

    I saw no 2025 (nor 2024) Libertads at the recent Monterrey show.

    And, with all due respect, to set the record straight, Lois Bailey is not one of the “most respected experts” on Mexican coins. Far from it.

    Don Bailey was indeed knowledgeable in modern Mexican material. Possibly even an expert.

    Edited to add: Golino has spread misinformation before. I generally take his writing with a grain of salt.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Completely an “ouch”!

    I recall their numbers or forecasts to be fairly accurate in the past, hope these are not real numbers this go-round. I agree that I may just let go of the Libertad series if this occurs.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • badhop55badhop55 Posts: 169 ✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2025 6:33PM

    Looks like first movement:

    Both are: 2025 1/10 Oz. Silver Libertad Proof and all on BID

    eBay item number:226889519063: Currently $305.00, 22 bids (8 bidders), Ends in 2 Days

    eBay item number:226890455535: Currently $117.50, 13 bids (6 bidders), Ends in 6+ Days

    Update:

    eBay item number:306418988073: 2025 REVERSE Proof Silver Libertad 5 oz, Currently $1525.00, 33 bids (14 Bidders)

    eBay item number:306418992246: 2025 REVERSE Proof Silver Libertad 1 oz, Currently $1525.00, 18 bids (12 bidders)

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This makes absolutely no sense other than some viral gossip. I through it at AI and this is what came up.. buyer beware!

    Why the “300 Mintage” 2025 BU Libertad Story Doesn’t Add Up
    Over the last couple months, a rumor has been circulating that only 300 1 oz BU 2025 Silver Libertads will be minted. It’s created a frenzy of presales, sky-high eBay listings, and panic among set collectors. The problem? There’s no credible, official basis for it — and here’s why.

    1. The Mint Never Releases Final Mintage Numbers This Early
      Casa de Moneda de México and Banco de México have never published final mintage figures in the same year a Libertad is struck.

    Historical pattern: Final BU and proof mintages are released well into the following year — sometimes not until late spring or summer.

    Proof: Even the 2024 BU 1 oz Libertad mintage hasn’t been officially released yet as of today.

    1. Official Reports Show Zero 2025 Libertads Minted
      Banco de México’s own quarterly coinage reports for 2025 still show 0 Libertad coins struck this year.

    If none are officially recorded, there’s no basis for claiming a final total — let alone an exact one like “300.”

    1. The Source Is Dealer Gossip, Not the Mint
      The “300” number traces back to a U.S. distributor’s claim (Don Bailey/Pat Stovall), repeated in an article and on forums.

    There has been no official confirmation from Casa de Moneda de México, Banco de México, or their press channels.

    Once posted in forums and repeated by YouTubers, the figure went viral — but repetition doesn’t make it fact.

    1. Dealers’ Website Wording Fuels the Misunderstanding
      Major dealers list the 2025 BU as “Out of Stock” or “Sold Out” — even if they’ve never had any in hand.

    This wording can make buyers assume coins were released and sold out instantly, when in reality they may not have been struck yet.

    1. Why This Rumor Benefits a Few at Everyone Else’s Expense
      The hype drives pre-sale prices into the thousands.

    It creates the perfect environment for counterfeits and fake pre-orders.

    If the mint later releases more coins (as is entirely possible), those who paid hype prices will be left holding the bag.

    Bottom Line
    Until Banco de México publishes official mintage figures — likely in mid-to-late 2026 — any claim about “final” 2025 numbers is speculation.
    Seasoned Libertad collectors know: If 2024’s numbers aren’t public yet, there’s zero chance 2025’s final BU mintage is already confirmed. Treat the “300 mintage” story as exactly what it is — unverified dealer chatter.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2025 5:12AM

    Hmmm, notice that I have seen a new figure of 500 pcs. on the regular unc. 1 onza, up from the previous 300. Absolutely LUNATIC prices for coins of unconfirmed mintages. BTW, there seem to be an awful lot up for sale & feel many of the dealers are out for a quick cash grab as you've said.
    They have revised figures before as well.....
    Also, not to be inferring too much, but I am skeptical of the Mexican Mint, even if I like their products and though have no inside knowledge, have seen some things happen [that I'd rather not share] which don't have a better explanation; I think the temptation to mint just a few more of coins like the "regular" uncirculated satin piece is really great - at 2-5,000 USD per coin with the 1/2 oz and up sizes why would there not be temptation to strike another 500-1,000 piece amongst the denominations and with the dies just sitting there?

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not the Mexican Mint saying that they are rare. Besides, it’s still 2025, and they are allowed by law to keep minting them as they see fit.

    It’s more a cash grab by dealers (and unreliable journalists) spreading rumors.

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree. If this were true, the Mint would lose 100s of thousands of collectors that have complete sets, like me. That would be stupid on their part for sure. A glaring hole in my collection would aggravate me enough to sell them all and move on. JMHO

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I agree not the Mexican mint directly. Still, I wonder how those figures got out there???

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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