Label white space does not match card in hand, everything else is legit.
Venomous72
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This is a weird one, and I’m not super familiar with the PSA scanning and label process, but here goes.
I have a PSA 7 Gold Star Charizard I picked up a couple weeks ago. Very reputable seller on eBay, Instagram, and whatnot (lol). He bought this card from PSA’s eBay account (sent me screenshots). Anyway:
If you look at the PSA Scan vs the card in my hand, the white space above the PSA sticker and below the barcode is different than on my card. Same with the QR code. In fact, it is for sure a different label.
That said, look at the edge wear on the back of the card, as well as the small scratches and dots. It is the same case I am 99% sure, and am 100% sure it’s the same card. UV light test checks out.
So my main question is, would PSA swap the label or digitally render it or something? Even the weld marks on the slab line up.
Here are images of the scans vs the card in hand:
Here are the differences in spacing between scan and in hand:
Here you can see the weld marks match:
And here is the black light test:
Any thoughts or help on the label spacing discrepancy?
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To me it looks like the flip has shifted down in the slab and why there is less white between the logo and the barcode?
No, the difference is on the flip itself. There is less white between the barcode and the red border of the flip.
It is definitely not the same flip, but I have no idea why that would be.
I’m a bit of a noob, is the ‘flip’ the white part? Is it separate from the red border?
Even if that was the case tho, the QR code is totally different right?
Yeah, wondering if it was digitally rendered for the scan maybe? The card is def the same one as the scan, and the slab seems to be as well.
In the bottom left of the PSA slab there is a little number you should see in the mold. What do you see on the slab for your card?
Also. Did you purchase this through eBay yourself or directly from the dealer outside of eBay?
Like a backwards 21 or something.
And he was selling it on eBay (with auth guarantee) but we purchased through Goods and Services on Instagram. He has a ton of feedback, does a lot of sales and is very responsive.
He sent me a screenshot of his auction win on this card from PSA on eBay. He also told me already if I’m unhappy with it he will buy it back. That said it’s a beautiful 7 so I would rather keep it.
I couldn’t see it on your original pics - see it now. Did the label in his auction win photo match yours or the one in the PSA database?
The label in the auction win matches the database but it was clearly just the same PSA scan.
In his eBay listing he had the actual card scan. So he wasn’t trying to hide anything. Here are the ones from his listing
Here is the auction win from the seller
I’ve got nothing else.
. If it was me I would reach out to PSA.
Yeah I did, I have an inquiry or whatever it is. It’s just….odd right? The card is clearly the same one, the slab also matches in terms of scratches and weld marks.
The seller was at Collect a Con in NC this weekend and was chatting with PSA at the table. He said he asked about this since I was messaging him.
One of the employees there said they sometimes do a ‘pre scan’ or render or some such before even printing the label. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm tied up in a situation right now where PSA is trying to tell me that they apparently have 2 of the exact same common card, receiving the exact same PSA 10 grade, with the exact same certification number. They are "doing further research", and have not yet gotten to where they have offered me a resolution.
I've owned my copy for a number of years, purchasing it for spare change well before the COVID boom. Presently, it's apparently a $200+ common, and now this second card has surfaced and is causing me all kinds of problems with my registry set. I don't want to hijack the thread. I'm only mentioning this so you're aware of the possibility that there's a second card, whether it's a legitimate mistake by PSA, or some shenanigans by nefarious actors.
Interesting. Yeah if this was nefarious, then the replica slabs have gotten so good we are in big trouble lol. My guess is there was a goof at PSA with the scans and maybe there is another scan with another gold star zard that has my label….
The card in the scan matches mine down to the pixels. I have found every small white speck on the edges and within the main card and they all match.
Grabbed some additional shots to show that it is the same card and slab. This is in addition to the obvious matching edge wear.
Two white dots on the scanned copy:
Here they are on my copy in hand:
Small upward shaped scratch (I think on the case?) below the tip of the K. Here is the scanned photo:
And the card in hand, showing the same scratch:
Anyway, hoping PSA responds to my inquiry some time soon ish.
Ok, sorry to keep going on this but I have a suspicion. I think this was slabbed and scanned, but then didn’t pass quality control due to the label ink.
Maybe I’m way off base, but see how it’s kind of poorly filled? I have been looking around and can’t find other examples of bad ink like this on scans (I have only looked for about 20 min).
So I’m guessing it was scanned, didn’t pass QC, and then reholdered?
I think you’re onto something. I was reading through the thread, ready to point out that the original PSA scan likely wasn’t a digital rendering because of the poor “6” in 2006 - you’d think a digital rendering would be absolutely pristine - so your QC theory may be the right answer.
Jim