Same card graded by 4 Different Grading Companies - The Result
Compton57
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Interesting in light of what has been discussed on this board. This guy cracked 3 SGC-graded and resubmitted them to PSA, BGS, and CGC to see how each grading company scores the exact same cards.
Go straight to 16:30 for the results.
I’ll let the video speak for itself but certainly wasn’t surprised. I’d love for someone to crack some old PSA 9’s and re-submit to PSA today. Underscores why you buy the card & not necessarily the grade.
https://youtu.be/tRKQKMnrgVw?si=af7PHceZKM4R0H5D7
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Very interesting! Thanks for posting this.
This is the 2nd video I have seen of someone doing this. same results both times.
Yikes. And people still haven't learned their lesson
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PSA stands for Pretty Strict Alright?! I do love the sound of slabs being cracked, though. Brings back fond memories.
Farewell Ryno.
That is hilarious. Too bad they can't post one of these every week.
Giving the lowest grades doesn't make the you the best grading company. It just means you have lost the ability to grade and your reputation will probably soon follow.
Hi, I'd love some to post the results as > @BBBrkrr said:
I agree in principlt however given the totally excremental quality of the Non Collectors Universe competition that does not appears anywhere on the short or long term horizon
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
That Jeff Wilson guy has a very bright future as an expert in vintage card devaluation.
Farewell Ryno.
Vintage is just ugly. Just had a sgc order pop and it did not seem like sgc standards. All vintage. New standards I’m guessing. Fun stuff
Yeah, those cards were previously graded by SGC. I'm guessing SGC would grade them lower today.
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Interesting that he cracked SGC cards and not PSA, suspect he has some important relationships at the mothership to protect.
Good video would be submitting the same 4 cards to PSA 4 times and looking at the grade spread.
He should do that next year. That would be awesome.
Well he won’t do that for obvious reasons.
Yes, there should be several dealers salivating over the thought of being approached by this guy with the intention of paying full price for their cards so he can use his choppers and screwdrivers, then PSA can apply their "new" grades.
Farewell Ryno.
Watch the wild ride with the 89 UD Griffey when T-pott did this a week before Geoff did. (Geoff Wilson is just the worst.)
Very interesting video.
Thanks for the post.
Sorry but your reasoning is terribly flawed. The lower grades by PSA simply means stricter grading standards for a particular numerical grade.
For example the Ted Williams card. I'd be sure that PSA saw a flaw in the card that made it a 3 for their grading standards. The others likely saw the same flaw, but decided it was a 5.5 for their grading standards.
It's really not that complicated.
It’s possible that he or his team damaged the cards each time they cracked and resubmitted.
You are 100% correct and I agree with you.
Lower grades do simply mean stricter grading standards for a particular numerical grade.
That still doesn’t mean their standards are better. Just means their standards are outside the industry’s and makes them an outlier.
You are making a lot of assumptions in the last paragraph to rationalize the differences though without any evidence. I’m not sure I’d do that for any company no matter the industry.
I agree would love to see the same card graded 4 times with each company - my guess would be PSA is the least consistent which stands to reason as they have the most graders so more likely that different people are giving their opinions.
I can’t stop watching the guys videos. He’s completely bonkers. Watching him crack slabs makes me cringe.
Two coats!
Great point BBrkrr. "...their standards are outside the industry’s and makes them an outlier" is key here. Being the outlier is why so many collectors express frustration with their assigned grades. Not only do they not align with industry standards, but they don't line up with collector's standards.
More importantly, PSAs grading for vintage cards does not align with their written standards. Which would be tolerable if they were more consistent. I can generally guess grades to +/- 1 with other graders on vintage but sometimes I am often +/- 2 with PSA. That was not the case until fairly recently.
You just can't change your standards 32 years into business. Assuring that everyone who had bundles of 10's already would reap huge benefits and the possibility for everyone else to get 10's diminishes to nil.
why would they do this? just hashing it out in my mind:
1) to ensure huge value for the 9's and 10's already encapsulated
2) to right the pop report - 4,500 psa 10's griffey's when hardly any of them are centered. and many more than that one.
3) when discussing vintage grading - they may want to get out of grading vintage. Not much training needed on the new stuff 8 9 or 10 and that's about it.
4) i think PSA is in a hot race with CGC for the Pokemon, Magic etc industry. SPorts cards, especially vintage slow down the process.
5) all the grading companies basically need several old codgers that know something about vintage and you would probably have to pay them more for less company profit.
I recall early on when I didn't understand grading.
Look, there is no government mandated grading system for cards, unless they just passed a law yesterday. Every grading company can grade however the yell they want. I'm not going to mention the name, but around 15 years ago there was a grading company out there that gave every card a 9 or 10. A card almost had to be cut in half to receive an 8. LOL
Grading as we all know is subjective at least to a degree. With multiple submissions of the exact same card, any grading company could vary with the return grade.
I'll say this in finality on the subject. I realize mistakes can be made, but overall in virtually every PSA card I've owned, when closely inspecting the card, I could see for example how a card in the grader's eye, sometimes could receive a 9 rather than a 10, and vice versa.
Bottom line, if you're just a collector, doesn't really matter all that much unless it's for the registry. However if you enjoy flipping cards, like I have over the years, it's important when trying to maximize profit, to understand all this and realize that PSA cards grade for grade, traditionally sell for more money than other grading companies. Ignore that, and you'll likely have an unsuccessful card flipping business.
Good luck to ya. 😊