calling out to psa in cgs
Dan6van6
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Calling Out PSA & CGC: You Graded the Same Error — But Now You Play Dumb?
To the collecting community,
Let me tell you what’s really going on behind the scenes at PSA and CGC, because I’m done playing nice.
I submitted a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle error card — Type 2 front with a Type 1 back. This is a 100% real, factory-printed mismatch. It’s a legit printing flaw, not a reprint, not altered, not tampered with. It's from the original Topps run in 1952.
Here’s the kicker:
PSA and CGC have already graded the same exact card — same error, same print flaw, same set.
But when I submitted mine? PSA flat-out rejected it. Said they don’t “recognize the error.”
CGC ignored it. No explanation. Just brushed it off.
So what changed? Is it only an error when it's convenient for you? Or when it comes from a big-time submitter? You’ve already slabbed this card before — and now you're pretending like you’ve never seen it?
That’s called playing favorites.
That’s called grading by politics — not by facts.
PSA and CGC: If you’re going to claim you’re the leaders in this industry, then you’d better hold your standards across the board. Don’t pick and choose when a card is real based on who’s sending it in. That’s not grading — that’s fraud.
You cost me a real buyer. You damaged the credibility of my card. You’ve shown the whole hobby that you’re inconsistent, biased, and maybe even afraid of cards you can’t explain.
To the clowns online saying “it’s fake” — prove it.
Don’t just run your mouth because PSA couldn’t recognize something that’s already in their database. Bring your facts, or shut up.
This card is real, rare, and worth every bit of its $50 million estimate.
You don’t get to erase it just because it doesn’t fit your comfort zone.
I’ve had enough. PSA and CGC — I’m putting you on notice. The whole hobby’s watching.
Either fix your broken system, or admit it’s rigged.
— Dang Vang
Comments
I don't see a 1952 Mantle error card in the population report.....
To the OP, your story would make much more sense and would carry much more weight if you actually supplied photo evidence of your claims.
Even so, if they graded one of these before (ie. a '52 Topps Mantle with a type 2 front and type 1 back), then it's possible they did it in error. They realized they were wrong and have now changed their minds. In other words, any 1952 Topps Mantle with mismatched front and back is a counterfeit card.
Just because they mistakenly graded a counterfeit once, that doesn't mean they have to do it every time.
Also, even if it was a legit misprint, it would never approach $50 million.
Ah, I think I found the original discussion and graded card. Hard to tell without holding the card in hand, but it's pretty convenient that the card is scanned or photographed against a white background to hide the possible evidence of a cracked and resealed holder.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sportscardsnonsense/posts/1594899098161419/
Guessing this is the OP's card. Dang, man, I'm not so sure your card is real.
That halftone is on point!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/652401903888170
https://www.facebook.com/reel/528474636326237
Jeez, it's a type Fake front with a type Fake back! But def not a reprint, a reprint would look real!
Dang, can I have a little of what you're smoking?
I think I’m going to trust the ones who’ve seen 1000s of these cards….
PSA and CGC: If you’re going to claim you’re the leaders in this industry, then you’d better hold your standards across the board. Don’t pick and choose when a card is real based on who’s sending it in. That’s not grading — that’s fraud.
1) CGC is not an industry leader, and never will be. At best they are an industry JOKE
and will be tied up in court when the Pokeman lawsuits bubble up to top of pile in the legal system
2) With your fake card, any potential for Fraud (intended or unknown) actually is yours.
That’s called playing favorites.
That’s called grading by politics — not by facts.
While not pertaining to your FAKE card in general I do not disagree as a tenant of great business is to keep you largest customers happy
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Where the back is missing part of the surface, the cardboard shouldn't be a different color, particularly not a tone of white. But you stated they've "already slabbed this card before", are you saying that they've graded your particular specimen and now you're trying to regrade it as an error? Or are you just saying that you've seen the error in a PSA slab?
1952 Topps wasn't printed on white cardstock. You can see it from the edge.
This is a 52 Mays, can you see that the its just regular brown cardboard with ink printed on it? So any surface issue on the back, you're just going to see more of the same cardboard. Here is a Mays with damage
don't worry the OP wont be back.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
If only we could say the same about you perhaps we would get a new member here from time to time.
How much did it sale for is one of the funniest and most ignorant things I've ever heard.
I'm here to stay and I'll never pose questions regarding "what's it worth" .
P.S. why you want obvious scammers to stick around?
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
It would be pretty near impossible for this card to exist. The 1952 Topps high numbers were printed on a single 100 card sheet with the double printed Mantle appearing twice. The backs of any mistake would simply not line-up to allow for this as Mantle Type 1 was position 1-1 on the sheet.
Out of curiosity, and agreeing it’s fake, what would this card be worth today?
Zero..... Duh!
That’s a 400% increase!