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Anything Special? Two GB 1878 Sixpences

Possibly, LOL. These are much nicer tha they appear and grade respectively at hosts MS 64 and MS 63:




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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One looks to have a die number of 6 with the other 30. Trying to remember if the 1878 or 79 is the better date.

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bit more……But somewhat on the right track!

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without checking… were the die numbers not intended to be used in the production of 6d coinage in 1878?

    I did not check any resources but 1878 seems late for die numbers

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭✭

    The first 1878 reverse looks like the 8/7 overdate.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should have been looking closer… it is the overdate

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, Exbrit on the money BUT check out the other. Small Hint: both gotten off the Spink Numismatic Circular many years ago when I knew one of the principles and used to get "preorders".....

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 12, 2025 4:32PM

    Ok - I’ll bite on the second as well. dritanniar. Also possible different versions of the head. Second and third? I was waiting to see if anyone else would chime in on it.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK smartie! You have top marks. The latter is probably as nice as you will see even if the picture is sub-par, and was so lucky to get it. I wish I still had such connections (and funds)...

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 12, 2025 5:26PM

    Love the shillings by the way. BTW - how rare are they?

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In mid-mint state grades, these two coins are quite scarce & maybe even rare depending on your definition. For the 78/7 there is one graded at 63 and one at 64 with our hosts with no other mint state. For the DRITANNIAR, one at 64 and no other mint state.
    At NGC for the 78/7 there are two at 62 and one at 64 with no other mint state; for the DRITANNIAR, there are 2 at 64 and no others in mint state.

    Outside and in the raw I have not seen any others near to these, and as one example you can look back if you are able and will not see any equal or better SNC examples although I recall seeing them posted on one other occasion. Norweb did not match these.

    Obviously my coins, but at least with regards to the DRITANNIAR the coin likely has to re rated among the top Vicky 6d coins along with the 1854 and 1893 Jub head, with the latter two in 63 or better quality being supremely rare. I believe that S. Hill will support these opinions.

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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,988 ✭✭✭

    DRITANNIAR only shows up on die #6 - which makes it easier to detect a fake.

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  • ExbritExbrit Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭✭

    What are some of the well known collections for these?

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bole was the main one. S. Hill might know others; mine is none too shabby, LOL.

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Exbrit said:
    What are some of the well known collections for these?

    There have been some interesting stories circulating about the DRITANNIAR 6d coins, including that there may be some Die #6 coins that are not the "error" type. Also that these were sent to Cyprus after the Brit takeover in 1878 (on source stated, I believe, 4k coins) to at least partially pay public servants from the Ottoman regime that had not been paid but that for some reason a goodly number sent back to Britain & whose fate was then NOT documented. Supposedly the better preserved specimens of which this is clearly representative are thought to NOT have made the round trip to Cyprus....

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