Great Britan Victoria Gold Sovereigns 1857 and 1861 varities
Ralf_Kreuzberg
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Recently, I purchased a 1857 Sovereign with rare features around the digit "7" in the date. I took the added fotos It seems that something like a line crosses the 7, but I donot have any idea what this could be, therefore I would like to ask here whether somebody has un idea what could this be...some weeks ago, I also purchased a 1861 sovereign for only a little more than its bullion value, analysing it, I found that on the obverse the "E" in DEI on its right side seems to have something like an extension; also in this case, I donot have clear what this could be.
Thank you very much in advance
Ralf
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I cannot really tell unless I have better images to look at or have it in hand. The date MAY be a 7 over 5 over date, but like I said - I cannot be sure. @Ralf_Kreuzberg. It does not look like the blundered 7 in Bull which is a 7 over 7 overdate that is also seen in the Bentley collection.
As for the 1861, again - I cannot be sure without seeing in hand, but it could be the E over rotated E in DEI. Also known as a blundered E by Bull. Bull 1145 and Marsh 44D. In any event, interesting finds for both the 1857 and 1861. @Ralf_Kreuzberg
Hello Exbrit,
thank you very much for your comments. From this 1861 Sovereign I have more fotos, Iadded some of them
All the best
Ralf
Hello Exbrit,
from the 1857 Sovereign I also have more fotos of the detail around the "7" in "1857". With my foto equipment I reached its limits...
Greatings
Ralf
Based on the new photos of the 1857. I cannot make a determination. I no longer believe it’s a 7 over 5 overdate. I think that I was seeing a shadow. As for the 1861, I still believe it may be a E over a rotated E as stated above.
Always interesting seeing these. However, there are many such errors in the sov. and farthing series (the punches and occ even the obverse sov. dies were used for the copper farthing through 1859)....
Well, just Love coins, period.
In between in the internet, I found another example for errors in the lettering: in a 1872 Sovereign (fotos added) the "T" in "VICTORIA" shows a "extension" algo similar a la on the "7" of may 1857 Sovereign.
I seems interesting to investigate more these errors
Ralf
I would need a photo of its axis to see if it might be post strike damage.
Hello Exbrit,
the 1872 Sovereign above no is mine, I will try to get an offangle foto. The same coin shows another structure somewhat similar to a line on the bottom part of the neck of Victoria near the "1" of the date. From the die numbers of the 1872 shield type sovereigns and from its mintages I concluded that with one set of dies up to 100.000 coins were struck. This leads to think about wear of the die sets during usage. Therefore it seems probable that near the end of an usage period the dies had damages such as cracks. Could that be the cause of both feachures (at the "T" and on the neck of Victoria)? What do you tink about that?
Thank you very much in advance
Ralf