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The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 24, 2024 1:10PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Closing 2024 with a ''ugly coin'' but still a date I needed and at 40$ and non holed the price was right. This coin is a beater but only the 2nd 1756 I have seen in over a year of searching. The last one was much nicer but I only saw it after the auction had closed (it was in a lot with 5 other coins and commanded a price way above what the 1756 was worth anyways). Will upgrade over time. Considered as an uncommon date per Yonaka:


NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

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  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 147 ✭✭✭

    Just got this one in the mail today. It’s a scarce two year issue.


  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2025 11:30AM

    What a beautiful Farthing…excellent pick up Wybrit

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  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    My first Scottish coin for the "One Per Century" set. James VI of Scotland a year before becoming James I of England.

    Wish I could afford to collect old gold can;t get much better than that!!!

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,974 ✭✭✭

    Magnificent piece directly above!

    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars

    amazing coin

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  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2025 2:49PM

    Got this 1764 Guatemala 1 real cheap at auction for a non holed Guatemala 1 real. Paid 41$ they normally sell in the 150$-200$ range for this grade with no hole. This is the first 1764 I have seen since I started this series 2 years ago (considered Scarce per Yonaka).


    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just received this rarity 3 per Yonaka variety 1759 1 real Peru with dot over ''L'':


    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TheGoonies1985 said:
    Got this 1764 Guatemala 1 real cheap at auction for a non holed Guatemala 1 real. Paid 41$ they normally sell in the 150$-200$ range for this grade with no hole. This is the first 1764 I have seen since I started this series 2 years ago (considered Scarce per Yonaka).


    That coin saw some hard use in the service of Guatemalan commerce.

  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2025 10:03PM

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:

    @TheGoonies1985 said:
    Got this 1764 Guatemala 1 real cheap at auction for a non holed Guatemala 1 real. Paid 41$ they normally sell in the 150$-200$ range for this grade with no hole. This is the first 1764 I have seen since I started this series 2 years ago (considered Scarce per Yonaka).


    That coin saw some hard use in the service of Guatemalan commerce.

    Indeed but all early Guatemala reales (not 8 reales) are very tough since so few were minted. In the 1 reales 1754-1771 series mintage goes from 1700 to max 19 000 per year (Peru is about 20-25 times more (exceptions 1751 and 1752 those are unique and extremely rare) and Mexico a lot more than Peru minus the 1732 that date is extremely rare like most milled 1732's minus the 8 reales).

    The rarest date is 1769 (1 reales) with the mintage of 1700 only 2 are known to exist (per Yonaka). A collector told me that after 45 years of collecting the series he has yet to see a single 1769 come up for sale. He owns most dates but not that date.

    I see any given date once every 1-2 months come up for sale mostly the same dates. And mostly holed (over 80% in my experience).

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    @7Jaguars

    amazing coin

    Thanks CK. You can only imagine the search for 1963-67 proof half crowns - nothing there either although I do have a 1963 OMS in copper that looks a little "specimeny"....

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “specimeny”… need to remember that one.

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  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭✭

    Thats a beauty @Bob13! Nice eye appeal.

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13

    Do you think he really had that big an underbite?! Quite sizable

    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done @Bob13

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SimonW - doubt his jaw was so big. From Wikipedia:
    "Perhaps due to inbreeding among his progenitors, the hereditary Habsburg jaw was most prominent in Leopold. Because his jaw was depicted unusually large on a 1670 silver coin, Leopold was nicknamed "the Hogmouth"; however, most collectors do not believe the coin was an accurate depiction"

    The reference is in German so I can't dig deeper.

    His portrait shows a prominent jaw as well, but not as big as on the coin.

    Thanks for the feedback. NGC graded the coin 61*. Weird grade, but nice in hand!

    My current "Box of 20"

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry about large pictures. I just point my phone and take pictures, some are big, some are not. I don't know why. My recent purchase. It is Turkey 1946 50 Kurush with mintage of 565.



  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2025 2:26PM

    Unlisted variety. I should not be spending money till late April (just spent a larger part of my 2025 coin budget for some coins I needed not long ago) but hate seen a new variety I do not own come up for sale and not buying it. This one was cheap enough and has a unbarred (maybe considered broken since you can see some of the line on each side) ''H'' in HISP. Hopefully nothing I need shows up for a few months so I can get my finances back on track for 2025.


    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

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  • EddiEddi Posts: 523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2025 11:23PM

    @The_American_Frontier said:
    Unlisted variety. I should not be spending money till late April (just spent a larger part of my 2025 coin budget for some coins I needed not long ago) but hate seen a new variety I do not own come up for sale and not buying it. This one was cheap enough and has a unbarred (maybe considered broken since you can see some of the line on each side) ''H'' in HISP. Hopefully nothing I need shows up for a few months so I can get my finances back on track for 2025.


    After seeing your post, I went back and checked my Lima 1762 real.
    It shows the same "H" in HISP with a broken cross-bar.

    A further peculiarity is the date, which shows an undertype under "6" and "1". Do you know if Yonaka list this as a variety?


  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like on the 1762 have the same H too:

  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Eddi said:

    @The_American_Frontier said:
    Unlisted variety. I should not be spending money till late April (just spent a larger part of my 2025 coin budget for some coins I needed not long ago) but hate seen a new variety I do not own come up for sale and not buying it. This one was cheap enough and has a unbarred (maybe considered broken since you can see some of the line on each side) ''H'' in HISP. Hopefully nothing I need shows up for a few months so I can get my finances back on track for 2025.


    After seeing your post, I went back and checked my Lima 1762 real.
    It shows the same "H" in HISP with a broken cross-bar.

    A further peculiarity is the date, which shows an undertype under "6" and "1". Do you know if Yonaka list this as a variety?


    Thanks for sharing I would send the image top Brad Yonaka so he can add it to his new edition book.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:
    Looks like on the 1762 have the same H too:

    I own one like this as well I have 3 types of the 1762 Peru 1 real.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • Coinlover101Coinlover101 Posts: 142 ✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2025 2:15PM

    This is my 1762

    Peace

  • The_American_Frontier The_American_Frontier Posts: 6,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinlover101 said:
    This is my 1762

    See it is a lot more common that I thought. Mine was the first I had seen. Thanks for sharing.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

    US Dimes: 1793-1916 (G-04 to F-12)
    Latin America: Early milled 1 reales

  • SametsSamets Posts: 169 ✭✭✭

    Not a lot of these matte proofs floating around. Only 5 of the 6 coins in the set are known in matte proof finish. Sadly I can't find any information as to how these were marketed or sold. I'm happy to get one coin closer to finishing my matte set.

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