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1979 Topps Jack Morris PSA 9.
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This card just sold for $248.48 on EBAY with 23 bids. I collect PSA 9's from the mid to late 70's and this is the highest price by far I have seen for this card. The card usually sells between $100-$120. Its also in an old cert holder and IMO is lucky that it received a 9. I wonder if this is an anomaly or possibly the card is increasing in price. There's only 90 PSA 9's so its not an easy card to find.
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Weak surfaces for a 9. That card would likely be a 7-8 today with that amount of snow and fading.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Spot on. Very little chance this receives a 9 if submitted today. Great price for the seller.
That looks like a 7 to me. Top right corner isn't sharp, edges aren't great, there's a tilt...
Seems like way more tilt on the bottom than the top too. I wouldn't be comfortable with that card in my collection at any price.
There's lots of 79 Topps baseball PSA 9's in old cert numbers that would not receive a 9 and sometimes even a 8 if submitted today. For some reason a lot of 79 Topps were over graded years ago.
Congrats to the seller. Double his rookie price, lol. '79 Morris, not hard to find, they were never worth grading in the first place.
and the holder needs to be replaced.
Morris is a hall of famer and its his first solo card. The card like most 70's cards is not hard to fine but its hard to find in high grade as there's only 90 in PSA 9.
You missed the point. Hard to find in PSA 9 because very few were grading a 2nd year Jack Morris. HOF, ok, after exhausting his 15-year eligibility & elected by modern era committee. I don't care, wouldn't be in my top 1000 to own. Maybe folks will start grading it or selling the ones they have after seeing what it brought at auction.
I did not miss your point. The card has been worth about $100 for many years and is rarely up for sale. The card has major problems with centering and tilting which is the main reason why the card has not been submitted. Even if the card was selling for $500 today you would not see a big jump in the PSA 9 population as the card is hard to find in true PSA 9 condition. This is the case with many Hall of Famers from this set.
They are rare in PSA 9 for the same reasons as the Morris and not because they were not worth submitting to PSA.
It is a certainty that the 1979 Topps Baseball set is plagued by manufacturing inconsistency and flaws. As time passes, those who pursue and collect the set will realize how tough it is to find certain cards in high grade. Pertaining to this theory, it would be safe to assume that values will increase for accurately graded cards, and probably for inaccurately graded cards as well because Registry set collectors will need them.
Farewell Ryno.
I want a 79 Jack Morris PSA 9 now, Daddy...
Veruca Salt
I'd rather have a chocolate bar than a '79 Jack Morris...........
Makes sense. Its better to have $1 than $125. Bizarro world math.
It looks like a 9 to me. Based on when it was graded. That is what they looked like then. On that topic can you reholder a card like that to make it look like they graded it yesterday? That is where I think it could get weird. I just won a card that should arrive any day that has a label that makes it look like the 5th PSA label ever. Like something that came out of one of those old computer printers with holes on the side of the paper.
Took me a little while to grasp the Veruca Salt angle. I was just listening to the band Veruca Salt a few songs ago and was thinking what the heck and trying to imagine lyrics. I like the band. The character in the Willy Wonka film did not seem like my kind of person. 😄
Yes you can have PSA put the card in a new holder but you have to keep the same cert number. I had this done last year and it took about 4 months. The cost was under $20 per card.
First solo major release. 1978 Burger King came first.
That was a regional set only available in the Detroit area, no?
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Love those 77 BKs
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Thanks. That is helpful. I probably pass if its the same Cert #. 4 months wait does not sound fun either. I think the benefit would be to make it look recently graded. Because its really like two different companies with two different grading standards. I think people are wanting to spend their money on the card that was graded more recently cause it often is in better shape than same card same grade in an older holder, a nicer card and cheap for the incorrect grade applied to it. Why not accept the discount on the 7 in a 5 holder?
Just messing with you bruh. I like your engagement, enthusiasm & persuit of what makes you happy within the hobby. Don't lose the passion.
Sadly, the price of a quality Chocolate bar soon may very well approach the price of the Morris.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
I know that big guy and you made some good jokes. Morris is not in my top 25 cards to get. I was just making conversation and the card is hard to find in true mint condition.
Lindt may only ship to Canada and not the U.S. so that could be expensive and yeah, I'm considering the chocolate bar over a Mint Jack. Sorry Jack, you were great. Did not always show in the numbers but he just won. I realize the new metrics guys are trying to say that doesn't matter but I disagree. I think winning is important. But chocolate tastes good. Chocolate is important too.
I put coffee x 10 on the shopping list and hope we go tonight. 😄
and they don't taste the same as they use to. Reese's PB cup had 9 ingredients in 2005, now it has 14 and has very little taste. Same with butterfingers.
Yep!
Here's an example about my comments that many 1979 Topps Baseball cards were over graded by PSA many years ago.
A 1979 Fingers is very hard to find in PSA 9 as there's less than 70. Look at the bottom right of the card. How was this graded a 9.
Never mind the boogers. The focus is atrocious.
Farewell Ryno.
i have been collecting hard since 2007. I collected from 1975 - 1990, gave up and then came back. I can verify 100% that there were at least 3 huge players that graded thousands of cards per month and had multitudes of 10's. I would buy them at auction for $10, $15, $20, for all 10's. I bought 10 1984 topps cal ripken 10's for $200 total. One dude had 10 at a time to sell.
this fingers card should be a 4 and would be today. and perhaps would have been a 4 for you and me back in the day. You bring up the vast inconsistencies that exist in the grading industry. now f your cards a microscopic something on the surface the card gets lowered to a 6, at maximum.
Very frustrating indeed.
I was reviewing a 1966 mantle psa 6 on ebay last night. there are about 30 or so. all kinds of centering, mostly not good centering. and it made me wonder, are all these cards really 6's? I believe that centering makes the card stand out even more than sharp corners and you can sell your centered cards generally for 10 - 20% more. just thinking out loud.
816XXX cert was a 4SC graded card. Back then, 4SC had a dedicated run of certs beginning with 81XXX.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Evolution has caused a great concern to us all. Of course, there are many millions of cards in slabs which will elicit varying opinions, and it's generally agreeable that PSA used to be rather "enthusiastic" about placing grade numbers on cards, thereby creating a marketplace where we could buy and sell with better clarifications of our own opinions. Remember how much fun it used to be selling your raw stuff to dealers? Ha. Those were the days.
The best source of opinions and grading is your own pair of eyes. If you see a card which appears to have been overemphasized, ya just gotta shake your head, shrug and move on.
Farewell Ryno.
Elmago - nice post.
If I recall Griffey,Ripken,Reggie all had one among others way back when. Would not try one now.