@bgr said:
I sent a '68 Ryan with Auto in for crossover from Beckett to PSA (In the Beckett slab). It was a Beckett 6/10 and this is a card that I pulled from a cello pack myself, got autographed myself, and submitted myself. N0/Auth. Not a big card/Not a big deal. I just wonder what they're seeing that makes it look altered.
It that a scratch resulting in paper loss, or a print line, running beneath the player's names.
Was that there before, or maybe caused during the crackout, if it is a scratch?
To avoid this happening in the future, I'd submit with a min card grade of PSA 5 or something, as they may not really get a good measurement till it's cracked out. So if they crack it out and then discover it is short or altered, they can't give it an Auth cause they already commited to giving it a grade 5 or higher, or they'd have to pay you out if they really don't want to give it a number grade.
@bgr said:
This one bummed me out a bit. Thought ...maybe... my quest for a 9/10 '75 Rice was over... but... what's that?
Before
After
It was 50/50 with that print dot in the upper right, but... bummer. Thankfully Rice remains under-appreciated and is alive & signing.
I'd say it was more like 8-8.5 with the top right corner and the bottom right edge chips.. was this a crack and resubmit or did you send it to get a numeric grade? Is that a new chip on the left or a surface turd?
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Looks short, so maybe it got a min-size on the card grade. I take it that you didn't sub with a min grade
It that a scratch resulting in paper loss, or a print line, running beneath the player's names.
Was that there before, or maybe caused during the crackout, if it is a scratch?
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To avoid this happening in the future, I'd submit with a min card grade of PSA 5 or something, as they may not really get a good measurement till it's cracked out. So if they crack it out and then discover it is short or altered, they can't give it an Auth cause they already commited to giving it a grade 5 or higher, or they'd have to pay you out if they really don't want to give it a number grade.
I'd say it was more like 8-8.5 with the top right corner and the bottom right edge chips.. was this a crack and resubmit or did you send it to get a numeric grade? Is that a new chip on the left or a surface turd?
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