Is this a valuable card? Not sure what it's worth.

Morgan13 · March 8, 2024 8:47AM

It's in perfect condition. Totally mint.
I just have no idea what it's worth and ebay sold items are all over the place.
Thanks in advance.

BBBrkrr · March 8, 2024 9:00AM

Awesome card!

Centering isn't great, and it's probably as bad on the back. These days you'll get dinged a lot with centering off that much L/R. Hard to tell from the photo but at least one corner looks a bit soft too.

With that centering these days it's probably a 6/7.

Also, you should be very careful about putting it in a screw-down holder. Lots of folks on here have seen cards that wouldn't get graded due to the fact they've been flattened in screw-downs. I know at least one person that's happened to so watch that.

Morgan13 · March 8, 2024 10:58AM

I appreciate your response. I don't own it yet. I might buy all of his cards. This is just one he showed me.

DBesse27 · March 8, 2024 11:49AM

@BBBrkrr said:
Awesome card!

Centering isn't great, and it's probably as bad on the back. These days you'll get dinged a lot with centering off that much L/R. Hard to tell from the photo but at least one corner looks a bit soft too.

With that centering these days it's probably a 6/7.

Also, you should be very careful about putting it in a screw-down holder. Lots of folks on here have seen cards that wouldn't get graded due to the fact they've been flattened in screw-downs. I know at least one person that's happened to so watch that.

Agreed. No way a top grading company calls that “mint.”

vols1 · March 8, 2024 2:35PM

The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

mintonlypls · March 8, 2024 2:54PM

Remove it from the screw-down holder...it smashes the corners.

steel75 · March 8, 2024 8:22PM

Screwdown holders & PSA don't like each other. If the card has been in the holder for years, I would stay away.

RufussCkingston · March 8, 2024 8:56PM

@steel75 said:
Screwdown holders & PSA don't like each other. If the card has been in the holder for years, I would stay away.

You can already see the smash of the top right corner in the lucite.. Taking it out now after decades isn't going to make a difference. But SGC or BGS or CGC will grade it if PSA rejects it.

steel75 · March 10, 2024 8:06AM

@RufussCkingston said:

@steel75 said:
Screwdown holders & PSA don't like each other. If the card has been in the holder for years, I would stay away.

You can already see the smash of the top right corner in the lucite.. Taking it out now after decades isn't going to make a difference. But SGC or BGS or CGC will grade it if PSA rejects it.

I'm sure SGC or whomever will grade it. But keep that in mind that PSA probably will not when making an offer.
We all know the value difference between PSA/SGC.

jraytay · March 10, 2024 1:27PM

@vols1 said:
The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading. I bought a 54 Ted Williams card in 1980
for $40 and kept it in a penny sleeve in a weighted down Webster's Dictionary for 15 years before finding it again (should look up words more often). Submitted it to PSA and received a 6 mk. Really didn't pay much attention to the card details before submitting it and when it came back with mk at 1st couldn't find it but eventually did. Looking at it now I think the card was over graded but OK by me since I was a big TW fan.

Chicago1976 · March 10, 2024 9:24PM

Nice card! Per VCP, average price for that card in a PSA 6 holder is about $750. An SGC 6 is little lower at $690.

coolstanley · March 10, 2024 10:38PM

Is SGC still more lenient on centering?

Morgan13 · March 11, 2024 8:37AM

I have no purchased it yet.
I've learned my lesson about buying things I have little or no knowledge about.
I may make tue owner an off er of $200 after reading this.
Does that seem fair?

Groo · March 11, 2024 9:40AM

To the OP please take this as constructive but the card is nowhere close to mint.

Groo · March 11, 2024 9:41AM

@coolstanley said:
Is SGC still more lenient on centering?

If so, those days now have near term expiration date

daltex · March 11, 2024 11:22PM

@jraytay said:

@vols1 said:
The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading. I bought a 54 Ted Williams card in 1980
for $40 and kept it in a penny sleeve in a weighted down Webster's Dictionary for 15 years before finding it again (should look up words more often). Submitted it to PSA and received a 6 mk. Really didn't pay much attention to the card details before submitting it and when it came back with mk at 1st couldn't find it but eventually did. Looking at it now I think the card was over graded but OK by me since I was a big TW fan.

But of course there is a huge difference. The primary factor is that what you did distributed the pressure at least relatively equally, while a screw-down crushes the corners disproportionately.

jraytay · March 12, 2024 1:24PM

@daltex. Did you read the 1st line of my post? 'I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading"

daltex · March 12, 2024 9:06PM

@jraytay said:
@daltex. Did you read the 1st line of my post? 'I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading"

I did. Clearly many have had the opposite experience. And your example of the Williams doesn't support your first sentence.

jraytay · March 13, 2024 11:04AM

2 different examples of what I experienced. Clearly you chose to speak to only 1.

MantleMarisFordBerra · March 13, 2024 7:20PM

@jraytay said:

@vols1 said:
The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading. I bought a 54 Ted Williams card in 1980
for $40 and kept it in a penny sleeve in a weighted down Webster's Dictionary for 15 years before finding it again (should look up words more often). Submitted it to PSA and received a 6 mk. Really didn't pay much attention to the card details before submitting it and when it came back with mk at 1st couldn't find it but eventually did. Looking at it now I think the card was over graded but OK by me since I was a big TW fan.

This is killing me! Where’s the mark?

jordangretzkyfan · March 13, 2024 7:43PM

@MantleMarisFordBerra said:

@jraytay said:

@vols1 said:
The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading. I bought a 54 Ted Williams card in 1980
for $40 and kept it in a penny sleeve in a weighted down Webster's Dictionary for 15 years before finding it again (should look up words more often). Submitted it to PSA and received a 6 mk. Really didn't pay much attention to the card details before submitting it and when it came back with mk at 1st couldn't find it but eventually did. Looking at it now I think the card was over graded but OK by me since I was a big TW fan.

This is killing me! Where’s the mark?

Guessing it is the red “crayon” on the Topps logo above the card number on the back. If not that, I cannot find it either.

jraytay · March 14, 2024 6:58AM

@jordangretzkyfan said:

@MantleMarisFordBerra said:

@jraytay said:

@vols1 said:
The best-case scenario is a grade 7, which sell for over $1k. But I have heard PSA rejects a lot of cards that were in screw down holders for a long time so I would be careful.

I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading. I bought a 54 Ted Williams card in 1980
for $40 and kept it in a penny sleeve in a weighted down Webster's Dictionary for 15 years before finding it again (should look up words more often). Submitted it to PSA and received a 6 mk. Really didn't pay much attention to the card details before submitting it and when it came back with mk at 1st couldn't find it but eventually did. Looking at it now I think the card was over graded but OK by me since I was a big TW fan.

This is killing me! Where’s the mark?

Guessing it is the red “crayon” on the Topps logo above the card number on the back. If not that, I cannot find it either.

You found it!

80sOPC · March 14, 2024 10:32AM

Actually most are just repeating what they have heard. I’ve also subbed lots of cards that were in screwdowns that are in PSA slabs.

I have no doubt collectors have gotten rejections on cards from screwdowns, I’ve gotten min size in cards that measured so rejections are BAU - but a broad “PSA won’t slab” is flat out incorrect. Either the card has damage or it doesn’t, PSA has no magical powers to identify if a card was kept in a screwdown. Wish people would stop spreading this myth, but lots of new collectors I guess.

@daltex said:

@jraytay said:
@daltex. Did you read the 1st line of my post? 'I've sent PSA cards that were in screw down holders for years and no issues grading"

I did. Clearly many have had the opposite experience. And your example of the Williams doesn't support your first sentence.

azvike · March 14, 2024 11:53AM

I have probably submitted well over a dozen cards that I've picked up through the years that were in screw-downs and none have ever not gotten a numerical grade. (Although I am sure many others HAVE had them rejected...I guess I have just been lucky)

1959 · March 14, 2024 12:41PM

It depends on how tight the screws are screwed down. I have many that were in screw downs and were graded, but none recently.

Brick · March 15, 2024 11:32AM

The qualifier really knocks the value down. Less than $600 according to VCP.

Is this a valuable card? Not sure what it's worth.

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