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Post a submission that did not produce the anticipate outcome- Turkiye 1874 20 Kurush

coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 15, 2023 11:28AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I missed a scratch that was somewhat hidden on this one. While the coin exhibits a natural look that is attractive to some- but not all, it did not straight grade. I am certain this issue... among others... will be caught leaving a simple question.... Coinkat- how did you miss this?

And while I do not have what I would consider a plausible answer, this is one that I plan to keep even though it rightfully received an unc details grade. I live and learn from my numismatic miscues. I do not plan to take a mulligan on this one.

Depending how unpopular this thread becomes, I may add another submission at some point.

edits to first paragraph- 8/15/23

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    ClioClio Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin really got me and quite a few of my friends. I was still pretty new to all this and thought since I found a die match it must be real. Looking at it now it's quite clearly fake when viewed in hand and the rims are way off in contrast to a real example. Fortunately it only cost me shipping, grading fees, and my ego.

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    BjornBjorn Posts: 529 ✭✭✭

    The Irish shilling may have got me, although I would hope I would examine any coin of that expense carefully before buying

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    HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where does it say 20 Kurush?

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    neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2023 8:36AM

    I am generally good at filtering out problem coins, but I'm not a professional grader. So I miss my share of details coins. I'll share a few.

    I didn't recognize this one as cleaned. I thought it looked pretty good. There is a small halo effect, but I didn't feel like it was bad.

    Here's another cleaned one I missed.

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    neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2023 8:40AM

    Here is a 1913-G German Empire 1/2 Mark in MS67 I submitted that got attributed as a 3/3 variety (RPD). As far as I know this was the first 3/3 variety attributed and I had not seen reference to it anywhere else. It's fairly common to see small errors like that on German Empire coins, so I don't think much of them or search for them. I normally expect you to have to pay PCGS for variety attribution if you want something like that.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2023 11:29AM

    Weimar Republic silver coinage often exhibits die polish that adds to the challenge

    the 1937 shilling is one tough coin to find

    @HoledandCreative

    Well you managed to start at a more basic and elementary level- I am unable to read Arabic calligraphy. I was sort of treating this one with the understanding that size matters... So I really am on a solid path whereby I will not meet goals... LOL

    I still like the coin despite the scratch

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    ClioClio Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    Weimar Republic silver coinage often exhibits die polish that adds to the challenge

    the 1937 shilling is one tough coin to find

    @HoledandCreative

    Well you managed to start at a more basic and elementary level- I am unable to read Arabic calligraphy. I was sort of treating this one with the understanding that size matters... So I really am on a solid path whereby I will not meet goals... LOL

    I still like the coin despite the scratch

    Not sure if you did or not but be sure to check the spoiler tag for grade result.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2023 11:48AM

    Didn't look yet-

    Looked...

    OMG... didn't see that coming.

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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Clio - Ouch! Any inkling at all before submitting?

    Here's mine - previously straight graded across the street. I cracked out and examined, and saw no issue. But came back as "damaged - mount removed." Still a great coin.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13

    Exactly... still a great coin

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    ClioClio Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 said:
    @Clio - Ouch! Any inkling at all before submitting?

    Not really sadly. I was pretty hyped up too haha. It's well made I'll give them that.

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