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Post office lost 7 cards in spare registered set

My buyer won 7 cards from me which he asked for delivery confirmation and NO insurance for.I sent the cards,the tracking number said delivered and the guy didn't get them.Not the first time this happened to the guy,he said.He just changed addresses and the Post office lost much bigger items than what he bought from me.

Anyhow my auctions clearly state "Cannot be responsible for uninsured shipping BUT in order to keep some harmony among the registry and selling on ebay I incisted on offering some PSA 8s to make the guy not at a total loss.He left me all the feedback for the auctions and I feel a little better about the matter since I tried to make up for some of his loss.If I was a bigger seller I think I would have done much more but this was the best I could do to compensate.

Well,the 7 cards are still in the registry and I'm wondering if I should leave them there just incase someone decides to list them.Is that okay or should I delete them?

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  • RobE,


    I would delete the cards and then watch the registry real close.If someone then lists them,it might be a way to trace them back.I would contact PSA and make them aware of your situation.They might have records of your cards which would be proof of ownership if it becomes necessary.I would also file a lost items claim with the Post Office.Even though you cannot get a reimbursement on your cards because they were not insured,if they turn up you might have a legal recourse if you have paperwork on file with the P.O.The fact that this guy asked for no insurance and stated that he has had things lost before sounds kind of fishy to me.I have been working for the Post Office for over 23 years and I don't think that I have ever heard of someone losing something more than once or twice.The odds are against that.Especially since he stated that the Post Office "has lost much bigger items than the one that he bought from you"The key here being "items",as in the plural form.I think that your cards will turn up on the registry if you delete them and then you can investigate further.

    Good Luck and keep us informed,

    Vic


    Please be kind to me. Even though I'm now a former postal employee, I'm still capable of snapping at any time.
  • pcpc Posts: 743
    next time insure the cards for 1.30($50.00)
    and skip the dc
    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    I think you handled this well, considering the buyer's failure to buy insurance. I would delete the cards from the registry. If someone tries to register the cards and can't, unless he is stupid and notifies PSA, you'll never know about it. Rather, monitor the set weekly, and see if your cards are registered. If they show up, you got him!
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • RobERobE Posts: 1,160 ✭✭
    Folks.My Idea in keeping the cards listed in the registry was incase someone tried to list them they couldn't.It seems to be the only way to sit back and see what happens.If someone tries to register them then they won't be able to if they are in another set.


    This guy was a relatively new ebayer at the time.I suggested insurance as I always do but he told me not to worry and then the cards turn out to be lost.I check the tracking number and saw that it was confirmed delivered and kept in touch on the matter.I followed the buyer all this time who has a lot of transactions for buying and selling,I don't see any problems and believe he's not kidding.I spent a lot of time looking into this ebayer to see if he was FOS which I am 99 & 9/10% sure he's telling me the truth.


    When this problem began back in November he told me he just moved and the Post Office was losing a lot of his mail.I found it pretty odd that if he knew this only asking for delivery confirmation but it's been almost 2 months and he has not pulled any tricks if he's planning on comitting fraud.Since he's a part of the Registry I don't expect him to be a scammer either but they come in all shapes and sizes so who knows.


    As for the Post Office,mine told me to get the address of his post office and write a certified letter to the Post Master and provide any necessary info regarding the matter which I plan to.Since I can still get screwed here I'm just going to do whatever I can to proved that I did my part.The guy just left me positive feedback and seems to be happy that I tried to compensate so I guess he's not a scammer.Here again they come in all shapes and sizes but he's done everything to lead me to believe this is no BS.


    PC- yes you are right $2.20 could have avoided this whole mess.My Post Office told me that I should try signature confirmation too which is $1.80 but I'd rather insure a $100 package.
















  • I have been working for the Post Office for over 23 years and I don't think that I have ever heard of someone losing something more than once or twice.The odds are against that

    Well, now you have. I had close to ten different eBay related items not make to me over a six month last year, with the bulk being in September. One was insured, two were payments, and the rest were hard to find but cheap cards. Clearly someone was, dare I say it, stealing stuff at the post office. I've since had to forward most of my eBay related mail to a more secure mailing address outside of my area.
  • Sad story... similar things have happened to me as a buyer and seller... SO... as a rule of thumb... If the card is either worth more than $25 or if it is simply a really nice card... I always spring for the $1-$3 worth of insurance whether the buyer asks for it or not.
    (Especially if the buyer is new to ebay or has grumpy feedback.) If it's worth less than $25, I just gaurantee its safe arrival myself.
    I spend this small amount of extra money simply to protect myself from disappointing people and protecting my feedback....
    I also do it because the thought of a psa 8 1972 rod carew or something.... floating around lost or winding up on the island of lost and forgotten sportscards kind of haunts me...
    anyways... sorry to hear about your mishap... sounds like you did the right thing...
    -Geoff
  • Rob You're a class act.

    The buyer refused insurance, and you still give him cards to make him feel good about his BAD decision. I know the registry is a smallish group of people, and that probably played a pert in your decision to keep your buyer happy. I had some problems receiving cards when I lived in Nebraska (After a post office investigation it seems someone at the post office was taking them home - how the heck they figgured out what was in the various boxes is beyond me). You know my situation as a seller, which is why I now have mandatory insurance on all my lots for E-Bay.image
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  • Got an e-mail today from fellow collector I swapped card for card The card he sent me arrived just fine ,never had one damaged yet. The scan he sent me looks like someone stamped on the card I sent in bubble mailer marked fragile to him. Both just $5 cards so of course no ins. I work for USPS and cringe when things like this happen, makes the 99% of us who try to do things right, look bad (65% if you include management). Delivery Confirmation is scanned delivered to mailbox, covered porch where ever carrier thinks it will be safe. No one need be present to accept. Ins. items less than $50 aren't even scanned they're just delivered. I think the way to go for less than $50 item is to use the service signature confirmation which requires a person at the address sign for item . image
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  • You could just leave them registered on your set for a while to see if someone else tries to included them on another set. If so, and that person contacts PSA telling of the dilemma, you’ll get an e-mail from PSA. This has happened to me before when I’ve forgot to delete cards from my set after selling them. Maybe from that you would be able to do some back tracking.
  • RobERobE Posts: 1,160 ✭✭
    Copied all emails,paypal & auction Postal & registry records.
    Sent an email to the USPS and will be sending copies and a letter to the Chicago Post Master.
    Contacted PSA a while ago to see what their take would be but no word back then.
    Recently I was talking to Gayle on other matters but didn't think to run it by her and emailed again but no word as of yet either.(Weekend)
    I don't expect PSA to be the least bit interested in the issue,nor expect them to play card police but I wonder if that Spec No.that comes up when a card is registered keeps a permanent record on the cards history.Or maybe it's like an ebay's auction number which eventually becomes invalid.

    Thanks for the thoughts & opinions on the matter folks.

    Moral of the story.........INSURE YOUR ITEMS!!!


    Rob
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