1985 D planchet error?

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Collect raw morgans, walkers, mercs, SLQ, barber q. Looking at getting into earlier date coins pre 1900s.

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  • MedalCollector
    MedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It has the appearance of being struck on a tapered planchet, but that would be rare on a coin made from a copper-plated zinc planchet.

    However, it is not misshapen and still retains the upset rim in the unstruck portion. I do believe it was struck on a tapered planchet. It may weigh slightly less than a regular zinc cent.

  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Early "Zincolns" had planchet problems, including plating and bubbling.

    This one looks extreme indeed.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • ctf_error_coins
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    Post Mint Damage

  • MedalCollector
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    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
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    What is your reasoning?

    One would think that a zinc cent damaged that significantly would expose some underlying zinc and cause significant lateral expansion.

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  • ctf_error_coins
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    @GoldenEgg said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
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    What is your reasoning?

    One would think that a zinc cent damaged that significantly would expose some underlying zinc and cause significant lateral expansion.

    Look at the word "Cent"

    No zinc damage because it was smashed and not scraped.

    If an error the letters would be strong and not mushed like in the OP.

  • JBK
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    edited January 30, 2021 1:38PM
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    I'll vote tapered planchet (but I won't wager money on it ;) ).

    I think the roughness in the blank areas is unstruck surface, and the mess at the lower part of CENT is the result of the metal expanding outward into thin/unsupported territory at the same time it was trying to flow into the letters.

    But who knows.

  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will bet money on it :D

  • tincup
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    Does the obverse have other areas that are affected? From the photo, looks like there is a patch affecting 'IN' and below it... and also to the left of Lincolns' shoulder?

    ----- kj
  • bigtime36
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    The front has more bubbling that the photo didn't capture

    Collect raw morgans, walkers, mercs, SLQ, barber q. Looking at getting into earlier date coins pre 1900s.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Post Mint Damage

    What is your reasoning?

    One would think that a zinc cent damaged that significantly would expose some underlying zinc and cause significant lateral expansion.

    Look at the word "Cent"

    No zinc damage because it was smashed and not scraped.

    If an error the letters would be strong and not mushed like in the OP.

    I don't think it is a tapered planchet. I lean towards PMD myself. But, respectfully, if it were "smashed" shouldn't the rim be less pronounced (more smashed) and/or the coin out of round?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2021 1:41PM
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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Post Mint Damage

    What is your reasoning?

    One would think that a zinc cent damaged that significantly would expose some underlying zinc and cause significant lateral expansion.

    Look at the word "Cent"

    No zinc damage because it was smashed and not scraped.

    If an error the letters would be strong and not mushed like in the OP.

    I don't think it is a tapered planchet. I lean towards PMD myself. But, respectfully, if it were "smashed" shouldn't the rim be less pronounced (more smashed) and/or the coin out of round?

    That would be my assumption. I don't see how the coin gets flattened like that but keeps its rim and shape.

    If PMD, where did the displaced metal go? Not outward, not upward, not downward. The plating is still there so it wasn't ground away.

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