Mexico 1808/7 8 Reales variety

TwoKopeiki · February 4, 2020 10:50AM

I could just wait for Brad's book to see what he has cataloged for this overdate, but it was a first one for me. Usually 1808/7 is identified by the remains of a line through the bottom loop of the 8 and there are rarely any remains of the rest of the underlying digit. In this example, there's a very obvious horizontal line showing as an undertype with an angle down where the digit 7 would curve. What's throwing me for a loop is the angle, which doesn't really line-up to the one you would see on a traditional 7 of that period. But it also doesn't match any other, like a 3, so most likely it's a 7.

Would love some thoughts from the forumites.

1808/7 traditional overdate with a bar in lower part of 8

Traditional 7 punch used:

My example:

Yorkshireman · February 4, 2020 11:09AM

Cool.
My book is due to arrive today.

Abuelo · February 4, 2020 11:35AM

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Abuelo · February 4, 2020 11:38AM

Your coin looks 8/7 to me, but not the expert.

TwoKopeiki · February 4, 2020 11:52AM

@Abuelo said:
Your coin looks 8/7 to me, but not the expert.

It does to me too, the longer I look at it, just an interesting die I haven't encountered before. To be fair, there are a number of over-date dies for this date.

Abuelo · February 4, 2020 11:53AM

And according to the book, that is the way it should look.

TwoKopeiki · February 4, 2020 11:58AM

@Abuelo said:
And according to the book, that is the way it should look.

Bah, I knew I should have waited

TwoKopeiki · February 4, 2020 8:00PM

Well, the book was waiting for me at home. Checking this date, Brad mentions that all show the remnants of the 7 in the bottom loop, while very few show more than faint evidence if the horizontal bar on the top of the 8. So, I feel a bit vindicated not having seen this strong of an under type before.

Abuelo · February 4, 2020 8:11PM

@TwoKopeiki told you. Nice book right?

bidask · February 4, 2020 8:24PM

@TwoKopeiki said:
Well, the book was waiting for me at home. Checking this date, Brad mentions that all show the remnants of the 7 in the bottom loop, while very few show more than faint evidence if the horizontal bar on the top of the 8. So, I feel a bit vindicated not having seen this strong of an under type before.

You are a true numismatist .

TwoKopeiki · February 4, 2020 8:32PM

@bidask said:

You are a true numismatist .

Thanks Dan. I wonder if you can be called that if all you collect is a run of 50 dates in the same denomination from the same mint... Perhaps fixated or obsessed

bidask · February 5, 2020 5:58AM

@TwoKopeiki said:

@bidask said:

You are a true numismatist .

Thanks Dan. I wonder if you can be called that if all you collect is a run of 50 dates in the same denomination from the same mint... Perhaps fixated or obsessed

Senator32 · February 5, 2020 12:22PM

Great post - just got my book in as well. A great resource.

Mexico 1808/7 8 Reales variety

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