2.5 years in a brown lunch bag.

Did you leave the sandwich in the bag with it?? JK.... Certainly not my type of Morgan, but if you are happy with it, that is what counts. Cheers, RickO

Not bad

Nice conclusion!

@skier07 said:
So how is toning a coin in a bag different than toning a coin with heat? If I lived in the Mojave Desert and the coin was outside in the summer under direct sunlight and we got similar results is that any different?

No that does not work. I put a roll of common UNC Morgans on the roof of my patio cover for a year. Heat had the chance and weather and all and nothing but dirty coins when done. At least here in the Mohave it did not work. Maybe in the Sonoran (south of here in AZ) where it gets more moisture?
bob

I've been in the desert so long that I was wondering if there was any way to NT a coin. You guys/gals that live in humid areas have a much better chance of your coins toning as the years go by. Me not so much. I've never had a coin tone no matter where I put it, no matter the conditions I kept it in. We just do not have the ingredient that is required = moisture. Boring to pull a coin out of your safe that's been in a PCI holder for 20 years and have it look the same as the day PCI put it there. Ugh, sometimes I do wish for humidity!

bob

I remember when Boom put some Washington quarters in brown paper envelopes and PCGS said it was artificial toning.
He seemed to be rather peveed for a while.
Yeah those old style envelopes from before all those PCV flips came around.

@AUandAG said:
I've been in the desert so long that I was wondering if there was any way to NT a coin. You guys/gals that live in humid areas have a much better chance of your coins toning as the years go by. Me not so much. I've never had a coin tone no matter where I put it, no matter the conditions I kept it in. We just do not have the ingredient that is required = moisture. Boring to pull a coin out of your safe that's been in a PCI holder for 20 years and have it look the same as the day PCI put it there. Ugh, sometimes I do wish for humidity!

bob

Ummm........you can get your wish. PLEASE PLEASE come cut my grass when it's 92 degrees and 90% humidity.
I'll pay you in silver.

@DIMEMAN said:

To be AT some kind of chemical has to be used.

I disagree. A blow torch or oven is capable of producing colors too.

If it's AT it's not for me.

Interesting experiments... Years ago I did extensive experimentation... I had one small room set up with multiple experiments going at one time. Some were not very good, some were amazingly successful. I should repeat the one that gives textile toning on Morgans...maybe I will... but then I would need pictures.... dang, my weak spot. Cheers, RickO

Horrible looking coins. What's up with the toning craze ? Keep them naturally blast white if possible. That's what most collectors want.

This one has just been sitting out on my 1930s wood desk for about a year now. Started blast white...

Living in central FL, I already HAVE a lawn guy that does most of my yard, for $10/week.
I take care of the back with my pool and numerous fruit trees.

Anyway, onto the toning. I would tend to agree that most of the doctors want quicker results, as do the dealers who utilize them. No 'years' in bag, napkin, drawer, Wayte Raymond album, etc. And I would tend to agree that rapid heating, chemical treatments, etc. are AT, whereas these other methods are more NT, though generally secondary toning, and while Ok, nothing beats classic old time toning from long term storage on a truly original coin.

@LindeDad said:
I remember when Boom put some Washington quarters in brown paper envelopes and PCGS said it was artificial toning.
He seemed to be rather peveed for a while.
Yeah those old style envelopes from before all those PCV flips came around.

He has since received a manicure.

And so it continues....Just to add a point....When I joined the forum....Yes, before the 2001 software changeover that required us all to re-register - back in 1999 - this debate about tarnish was raging even then. Since that time, there has been zero progress on agreements or definitions of AT or NT.....Even through the years of Laura raging about the 'doctoring' and vowing to 'out' them. It continues, and it continues because of the profit involved. Coins can be tarnished in hours and sold for major premiums. As long as the premiums continues, AT will continue.... the interesting point is, that slowly, more and more of it is becoming acceptable.
I did not use the term 'market acceptable'...since that is just evading the facts. AT is now accepted, in most cases. The most blatant are usually rejected as such - however - I believe even those coins are quietly procured at premium prices and ownership is not admitted. The purists still rage, many others just grumble... but look at the fact that the coins slab, it often bumps the grade and the premiums are increasing. This desire, for what is essentially environmental damage, is driving a large portion of the coin market. Cheers, RickO

@dadams said:

@morgansforever said:
Post your experimental toners if you have one.

Well here is one of mine, but I stink at pics. This has been wrapped in newsprint type paper that came out of an approx. 1870's book and inserted into a 2x2 for 6 months.

Nice tone! Your 2015 Eagle, do you have the original papers and box. This coin was a hot topic recently! If you have the original packaging, that Silver Eagle could be one of a few (79,000 Minted) from the Philadelphia Mint? Worth checking out, I think?