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I have a Jeter SP 1993 RC 279 in front of PSA right now and as far as I can tell it should come back 9-10. Any idea what the best avenue is to auction this and what current prices look like?
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I have a Jeter SP 1993 RC 279 in front of PSA right now and as far as I can tell it should come back 9-10. Any idea what the best avenue is to auction this and what current prices look like?
Thanks
Current Prices
I have a Jeter SP 1993 RC 279 in front of PSA right now and as far as I can tell it should come back 9-10. Any idea what the best avenue is to auction this and what current prices look like?
Thanks
Current Prices
Why does the PSA 9 Jeter sell for so much more than the BGS 9. I've seen both live and they seem to be pretty comparable. Even a BGS will all 9 subgrades sells for less than a PSA 9.
Min Size
I know I sound like a broken record but PSA is king and the spread in prices of so many cards just continue to widen. When you have 90% market share and the vast majority of the highest priced cards in the world reside in your holders it influences market forces.
Trend is going the other way.
Search "2015 bgs" and "2015 psa" in cards. Almost 2x as many BGS cards for sale.
Better divest!
If you accept facts, do you believe that's a coincidence? Or maybe BGS is doing better than PSA reports them to be doing.
If you think it's a 9 or 10, best not be disappointed if its a 7 or 8. You may be spot on, but the TPGs grade this particualr card very very harshly.
Best of luck and please let us know how it does.
As for best avenue... I think the PWCC would be great for this card that way it gets into the hands of a reputable dealer and is on eBay for everyone to see. This card would do great with them, imo.
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Trimola? Makes sense.
Possibly that too, but a lot are just factory short, outside PSA tolerance, but within Beckett.
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Search "2015 bgs" and "2015 psa" in cards. Almost 2x as many BGS cards for sale."
I decided to check this out.
2015 PSA = 5303
2015 BGS = 7075
But
2015 PSA auto = just 780 with a good % cut cards.
2015 BGS auto = 3269! 4X as many
But wait, hold on, didn't PSA just start dual grading? Let's revisit this thread in a year
and compare 2016 PSA vs BGS!
PSA grades in the neighborhood of 1.6 million cards per year.
You can't be serious. This is just business. I get it so many SGC holders are upset about the spreads blowing out so much. I get it that BGS had PSA on the ropes years ago and blew it. The numbers are the numbers.
The pre-BVG beckett was great and very comparable in grading standard. The slab was far superior to PSA and the sub grades shed light on why they graded that way.
Once BVG took over the comparable standard dropped for nm and under cards. I have had success crossing 8's though.
The OP is talking about the future in card grading though, and they are not making more vintage cards. (Unless they were found at an estate sale and sold as a reprint, but looks old)
I've never submitted a modern card for dual grading but the PSA web site says it Fees do start at $25. Since PSA just started the service, fees should become in-line with demand.
Plus monthly specials are sure to follow.
There's a certain number of cards from each grader on eBay.
There's a price for card grading and auto authentication.
There's a price for dual grading.
Those things are like saying the sky is blue; it's not in dispute.
I wasn't saying anything about sale prices. That's highly complex. Volume is where dpeck is mistaken.
Mistaken? That is the supposed argument. There is nothing to argue about as I said. The numbers are the numbers.
I know I sound like a broken record but PSA is king and the spread in prices of so many cards just continue to widen. When you have 90% market share and the vast majority of the highest priced cards in the world reside in your holders it influences market forces.
Are they defining market share in terms of units or revenue?
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I know I sound like a broken record but PSA is king and the spread in prices of so many cards just continue to widen. When you have 90% market share and the vast majority of the highest priced cards in the world reside in your holders it influences market forces.
Are they defining market share in terms of units or revenue?
Units is my understanding. I am not certain if he is still a member here but dbcoin followed the total number of cards graded by PSA meticulously when he used to comment here. If you go to the CLCT Yahoo Finance board he is dbtunr and posts quite frequently. One of his more recent posts shows that CLCT had graded 191,000 cards with two days to go in March. A record month. I tried looking for the slideshow presentation that he posted when this issue was discussed in the past but can't find it so far. When I first joined the boards PSA was in the 85% range and of course when I said it many didn't believe. Well it only grew. The least scientific approach one could take to this is just a quick search using the word PSA or BGS on EBAY. PSA 608,300 BGS 125,565. This equals just under 83%. At one point BGS and PSA were neck and neck so there are quite a few cards that were graded by BGS from seven plus years ago and skewing this some. Whether people like it or not PSA just took over the market. I remember in 2013 when I was at the National and the line for PSA was a mile long, BGS you could walk right up and SGC there were only two people sitting there twiddling their thumbs. None of us set the prices and the market continues to speak. PSA cards are bringing drastically more in so many cases. The guys across the street are broken hearted when the PSA graded examples crush the SGC and they still can't figure out why. In my view the smarter money saw this trend and adjusted to it years ago. The one area BGS still wins in price in many cases is the pristine grade and year after year the spread seems to narrow. I would be curious what the Jordan BGS 10 would bring these days. The last time we saw one posted it went for just under 70k. In the universe I collect PSA 9's bring more then BGS 9.5's by a large margin in most cases. If they were viewed equally or in some bizarre case more favorably this wouldn't be the case. It is what it is.
Haha. I feel like I'm getting a crash course on this. Now I really hope it comes back at a 9 or I'll feel silly.
That really escalated quickly..
Haha. I feel like I'm getting a crash course on this. Now I really hope it comes back at a 9 or I'll feel silly.
Welcome to the jungle...
The quality of the three companies is of equal value, in my opinion, the main difference being the size of the universe they individually inhabit. PSA took the industry lead for two distinct reasons. First, their leading demographic (wax era vintage) was both readily available and popular as the children of that time period reached a point of greater disposable income and time. Secondly, and probably of equal or more importance, they created a registry that was instantly popular and ran with it. Their holder was never more secure, their grading never more rigid. They did, however, appear in the right place at the right time and marketed it brilliantly. David is absolutely right. Both the market share and realized prices clearly indicate PSA's steep lead in the industry. Bob has a fair point, however, as well. PSA and SGC have carve niches in finite commodities, while BGS is clearly the most popular TPG in the modern community - which is far from limited. BGS, much like PSA, was in the right place at the right time as modern exploded from 2010-2012. Beckett is in a great position to take a larger of market going forward, if they are able to capitalize on on the foothold they've created. Yes David, in your universe, PSA both outsell and and have a far greater population, but ignoring others is short-sighted.
I have a very noob question. When you send to PSA, do they email you with a tracking number when it is coming back, or do they just send it? I have had it out for a week.
You'll get an email with tracking info.
Beckett's main business is still price guides and how many of us still use Beckett? I subscribe to the Football Monthly to keep up on products and reading on the throne, but for pricing I use other sources.
As for BGS's strength in modern, I believe the market size is much smaller than the one PSA owns. There are only certain modern cards that tend to get graded, not many people are grading modern commons. Beckett had something with the BVG subgrades and they gave that up to chase volume.
The below is my experience with anything 1993 SP Baseball. Including the min size Jeter which was rejected by PSA twice and then accepted by Beckett.
More noob questions... So if I submit a card and value it at $499, with an $18 regular submission, and the card ends up being worth $10,000, will PSA charge me additional fees?
They'll contact you, occasionally bump the service level price, but definitely give you an option to upgrade the return insurance value.
got it...was graded at an 8
Recent selling prices for this card in a PSA 8 are $170 to $209.
More noob questions... So if I submit a card and value it at $499, with an $18 regular submission, and the card ends up being worth $10,000, will PSA charge me additional fees?
They'll contact you, occasionally bump the service level price, but definitely give you an option to upgrade the return insurance value.
Thanks, Lark. I'm hoping this happens.