I have been following Joe's feed on Twitter and see the cards have obviously been revealed. With the population of the card moving up just under 50% I wonder if this has any impact on the value of the card in general. Obviously only 22 known copies is a pittance but the rate of change is huge. I would think the highest graded copy of the bunch would be immune to any impact as obviously a top collection will want to house that card but the lowest graded copies I could see actually potentially falling in value.
Wow, I love hearing about these finds. Now the question is what will the family do. Do they sell them all at once or release them slowly over time to keep prices strong? Does it even matter with these since there are only 7 and demand should be strong for all of them?
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Did anyone find it a letdown after all the Twitter hype? I was expecting more than 7 cards and in better condition. I would still rank the Black Swamp find way, way higher with the quantity and condition.
How did the Twitter hype go? Can someone post a general summary? I don't have twitter. Meaning, did he lead everyone along as a tease or he didnt know what he had, was he trying to hype it financially or other motives? Very interesting and exciting. the article didnt go into all of that.
Originally posted by: Dpeck100 I have been following Joe's feed on Twitter and see the cards have obviously been revealed. With the population of the card moving up just under 50% I wonder if this has any impact on the value of the card in general. Obviously only 22 known copies is a pittance but the rate of change is huge. I would think the highest graded copy of the bunch would be immune to any impact as obviously a top collection will want to house that card but the lowest graded copies I could see actually potentially falling in value.
I am curious what others think.
I agree. If I own one of the existing 15 Cobbs and 7 more suddenly appear, I'm not too excited with this news.
Regardless, it's an incredible find. Who knows what all is out there just sitting in attics and basements.
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This is a huge find for our hobby. There might be 15 people in the world that is really pissed about the find - on the flip side there are many who are extremely excited. The grades on these found cards are pretty high for the product.
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I doubt anyone is pissed. The people currently holding the other 15 assets might be glad to find out they could potentially realize a profit by watching any or all of the Lucky 7 go bonkers at auction, and then disposing of their own card for considerably more than they paid.
"Prior to this find, several of the existing examples were attributed to the stunning John W. Hudson find of 1997 in Georgia, where five total copies were discovered and subsequently auctioned. These cards were allegedly found resting between the pages of a book for decades."
I always thumb through old books for sports cards. The perfect bookmark. So far I've only found some '66 Batmans.
I have always been of the belief that these never hit the commercial market and this find further strengthens that for me. The most plausible scenario I have heard is that they were created as marketing ploy when founding the brand and were distributed at a gathering (be it a banquet, board meeting, or party held to mark the release.) I believe that the fact a full 80% of the now known examples came from two single finds in Southern homes backs this scenario up. I just think that had they had any commercial release (even a short one) more copies would have surfaced by now considering his popularity and the regional connection.
Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
In my opinion, this Lucky 7 Find will only increase the value of the previous 15 cards in population. The hype machine is real. How many collectors knew this version even existed before now? Great advertisement, and great for the hobby.
Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
These things tend to move in cycles. If you're patient, there will come a time when grandpas old underwear hoarders emerge from their pre-calculated petulant greediness and allow all of us to participate as proud holders of market shares.
Originally posted by: ugaskidawg Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
These things tend to move in cycles. If you're patient, there will come a time when grandpas old underwear hoarders emerge from their pre-calculated petulant greediness and allow all of us to participate as proud holders of market shares.
After hearing of 'baggists' recently and their mocking by other aviation collectors, I do believe people will collect anything.
Did anybody read the ESPN.com article? So many errors. Says the cards range from 3.5 to 4.5 . Actually, 5 of the 7 were graded lower than that. Also refers to T206 in their entirety as a "lot," not a set or an issue.
i don't think these new 7 cards changes anything in terms of value of the others. it's still so rare, and even the low grade ones are beyond the reach of most collectors anyway.
the people who own and collect cards like this know there are few times when you get a chance to own it, and that often makes the price of the item somewhat irrelevant.
great looking cards, a cool find for sure. i agree the black swamp find is way more impressive, but this is still quite a nice group.
not sure how i feel about "naming" every group of cards that are discovered, but that's for another day...
Originally posted by: ugaskidawg Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
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I am curious what others think.
Try this https://twitter.com/JoeOrlandoPSA/
Tweet #1
There have been some amazing discoveries in our hobby, but I'm not sure if any find is better than the one we saw today. Simply incredible.
Tweet #2
Yes, that was a bit of a collector tease, but I promise you that it will be more than worth the wait. More details to come next week.
Tomorrow we will reveal the details of the stunning card find. Someone told me at the office..."I couldn't have guessed that in 100 tries."
I have been following Joe's feed on Twitter and see the cards have obviously been revealed. With the population of the card moving up just under 50% I wonder if this has any impact on the value of the card in general. Obviously only 22 known copies is a pittance but the rate of change is huge. I would think the highest graded copy of the bunch would be immune to any impact as obviously a top collection will want to house that card but the lowest graded copies I could see actually potentially falling in value.
I am curious what others think.
I agree. If I own one of the existing 15 Cobbs and 7 more suddenly appear, I'm not too excited with this news.
Regardless, it's an incredible find. Who knows what all is out there just sitting in attics and basements.
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I always thumb through old books for sports cards. The perfect bookmark. So far I've only found some '66 Batmans.
Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
These things tend to move in cycles. If you're patient, there will come a time when grandpas old underwear hoarders emerge from their pre-calculated petulant greediness and allow all of us to participate as proud holders of market shares.
Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
These things tend to move in cycles. If you're patient, there will come a time when grandpas old underwear hoarders emerge from their pre-calculated petulant greediness and allow all of us to participate as proud holders of market shares.
After hearing of 'baggists' recently and their mocking by other aviation collectors, I do believe people will collect anything.
the people who own and collect cards like this know there are few times when you get a chance to own it, and that often makes the price of the item somewhat irrelevant.
great looking cards, a cool find for sure. i agree the black swamp find is way more impressive, but this is still quite a nice group.
not sure how i feel about "naming" every group of cards that are discovered, but that's for another day...
Living in the deep South, I have yet to run across any of these in my family's paper bags. Usually I just find grandpas old underwear. I guess my family was not a part of the "in" crowd.
Your grandpa wore underwear?