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1957 Mantle thoughts?

Color and case look odd. Thoughts? First pic looks normal but then when you look at the next 2 and especially the back they look odd?
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    What troubles you about the reverse?
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    One card and a boatload of this?

    Interesting.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    The reverse looks like it has a large stain? Thought it was a shadow at first but it doesn't carry outside the card.
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Card looks like a RP in my opinion.
    Colors seem off.
    Or am i just seeing things?
  • bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea whether or not the card is legit, but it bothers me when people put cards on ebay with crappy pictures if they are going to sell for anything more than $50.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have no idea whether or not the card is legit, but it bothers me when people put cards on ebay with crappy pictures if they are going to sell for anything more than $50. >>



    Funny this thread popped up. I saw the card yesterday and had the same concerns, so I sent the seller an email via Ebay stating the card was very nice, was possibly interested in bidding, and could they take a better picture with their phone and text or email it to me. Pretty reasonable request and nothing but.......... Crickets. Think something is off here and the more I look at it the sketchier it seems.
  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    I don't think that is a stain, it looks more like a shadow of the guy taking the picture. If you look at the front picture, you can see the guy's reflection that is located about at the same position as the shadow on the back picture. But, who knows. Crappy photos for a $500 card, that's for sure.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Font looks off...don't remember 9's looking like that in #95
  • It doesn't look like a PSA case. The normal pins are not there, instead larger ones in different places. Also the font and pic look blurry, but I could be wrong.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "It doesn't look like a PSA case. The normal pins are not there, instead larger ones in different places. Also the font and pic look blurry, but I could be wrong."

    YOu are 100% right, those pins are huge! I dont know if I have noticed that before. Card inside is defiantly fake, I wasnt sure if the case was a crack out or what but it did seem different.
    When you look at the top and bottom boarders there is a huge pin! And looks like only 2 pins total.
    This is fraud.
    I seem to see a lot of these type auctions coming from North Carolina over the years.
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Fake fake fake. That's not a PSA holder and the flip is a scanned copy. Card is likely a fake too.
  • MikeyPMikeyP Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    You guys are incredible. Great catch. The case also does not have a PSA logo on the bottom right-hand corner.
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  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He sent me a reply today after I asked for new pictures which he has now added to Ebay. This one looks very suspicious and too nice for a straight 8. When all you sell are car manuals and then pop a PSA 8 1957 Mantle on there it looks really fishy.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2nd fake case, different syle
    This one has 0 pins except on small one in the bottom left corner on be back.
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭


    << <i>2nd fake case, different syle
    This one has 0 pins except on small one in the bottom left corner on be back. >>



    That case is the new one released last year at the National..no round pins more like dashes..notice psa logo bottom right.
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>2nd fake case, different syle
    This one has 0 pins except on small one in the bottom left corner on be back. >>



    Check out how "Edmonton" is higher than "Oilers".
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, you are right. I just grabbed one I had graded this month and its the same. I had one next to me with a cert of 2147 that didnt match this one. But my new one with cert 230 looked like the gretzky.
  • belzbelz Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    Nice catch gentlemen...people ruining our hobby..hate it
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "

    Check out how "Edmonton" is higher than "Oilers"."

    That is true. Whats up with that. Does this card look ok?
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Probably just the scanner skipped...I think the Gretzky is ok.
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Probably just the scanner skipped...I think the Gretzky is ok. >>



    It's a photo (not a scan), isn't it?
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two things are red flags to me on this one.

    1) guy sells nothing but Benz manuals by the 100's and then puts a 57 Mantle PSA out of nowhere?

    2) look closely at the card - that thing is closer to a 10 than an 8. It is 50/50 all around, white borders like a 2014 card, no print marks or snow. Would hate to get that thing home for $4k+ only to find it is not real. What happens to the hobby if someone figures out how to beat the graded case???
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Auction is now at $2850 with 3 days left - wonder what the buyer on this one is going to do when they see this in person.
  • I hope you all have reported the auction so we can get it taken down by eBay before somebody gets fleeced.
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