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eBay Sellers Beware Accepting New User Agreement

MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭
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So first thing in the morning, no breakfast, no coffee, I check my eBay account and up pops this "New User Agreement" with an "I Accept" button. As with most of those things I just blindly click away (don't lie, you do too!)

However after the caffeine kicked in, I thought, hmm...better check what I just agreed to.

If I read the thing carefully, part of what I agreed to was participation in the eBay Global Shipping program. Very sneaky, eBay.

Here's the thing though. I tried to opt out in my Dashboard and it says I have to wait 24 hours to do so (I am sure they are hoping I will forget all about this).

I'm working on the 2nd cup. If anyone had the pop up and actually read the User Agreement, please chime in and let me know if I just handed over my life to eBay.

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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    As someone who also has a Canadian address I will never buy from a seller who uses the Global scam program if Im shipping to Canada. The only thing its good for is lining Ebays pockets.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i think you can opt out of Global Shipping when doing individual listings by unchecking a box, at least that's what i've been doing, as well as checking every box for the other 5 billion+ countries i don't ship to.

    it's great if you remember to save your template and reuse it. i forgot to do that last week with a group of my listings and needed to go back and check/uncheck a bunch of friggin boxes again. imageimage
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    I just did my first Global shipping transaction, a low dollar amount to Canada. I shipped with tracking to ebay in Kentucky, now I'm off the hook. What did I miss?
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Selling to Canada, puts you between a rock and a hard place (Or On if you watched Gung Ho). I use the GSP as a way to ship to other countries, but unless the item is worth more, it doesnt pay the buyer to use it and one time I had a buyer not pay because of the amount ebay charges (which was $11.85 for a bubble mailer)
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    The Global Shipping Program is the only way I will sell. International buyers don't want to pay what it "truly" costs to send something internationally. I have had too many items get "lost". With the GSP, you can just ship to Kentucky, and then you are off the hook as a seller. As much as the buyers hate it, it is the ONLY way I will ship Internationally!
  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭
    What does it truly cost to send 1 graded card in small bubble envelope from the US to 1) Canada 2) everywhere outside of North American

    From Canada I can ship a graded card to the US for $2.20 in postage and everywhere else for $4.36. At least for a few more weeks then it goes up to $2.40 and around $4.75
  • Indy78Indy78 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭
    A bubble mailer with graded card (total = 3 ounces value = $10) sent from U.S. to Canada First Class International costs $6.91 (online price). Last I checked, that price does not include delivery confirmation/tracking. That's a problem to which Bobby alluded.

    Edited to add: I just looked up info from USPS site regarding First Class International and stand partially corrected. It says, "Tracking is available to certain countries when used in conjunction with Electronic Delivery Confirmation." I didn't find anything about which countries. I'll leave that for someone else to figure out.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    Shipping a card with delivery confirmation to Canada is like $30-40 IIRC.
    My eBay Store =)

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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Selling to Canada, puts you between a rock and a hard place (Or On if you watched Gung Ho). I use the GSP as a way to ship to other countries, but unless the item is worth more, it doesnt pay the buyer to use it and one time I had a buyer not pay because of the amount ebay charges (which was $11.85 for a bubble mailer) >>



    Well put.

    Take this Harper RC for example...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bryce-Harper-BGS-9-5-2011-Bowman-Chrome-Prospects-RC-Gem-Mint-Nationals-/360867357618?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item54055ee3b2

    For the buyer they charge a crazy high shipping rate, import fees the government doesn't even charge, the shipping takes forever and is much slower than any standard service, and there is no tracking for the buyer. At the current BIN the card would cost $29.34+20.15 to ship it to Canada under the GSP. If the seller hadn't opted into the GSP and shipped Airmail it would be approx. $29.34+$4.00.

    For the occasional International seller it removes some headaches (mainly liability) and I understand that completely. However, as a whole it turns off more International buyers than it brings in. Its much cheaper to buy from Amazon for example than the same priced Ebay items, even taking into account Ebay bucks. For sellers that seem to have many issues (Hi Bobby!) this program is gold. For people who rely on selling as a business with International customers its not a good program unless you only sold to the US previously.
  • soundgardsoundgard Posts: 650 ✭
    Last time I shipped a card to Canada it was over $30. Had to pay it if I wanted coverage.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    I sell a decent amount of hockey to guys in Canada and have yet to run into any issues shipping up there first class which costs about $7 in postage for one card as Indy78 stated. Anything worth over $100 I'll ship Priority with d/c which is around $20-$25 and charge the buyer accordingly. Most Canadian buyers understand it's not the seller's fault that shipping rates are high, and the ones that don't you don't really want as buyers anyway. I don't see the need for Global Shipping, seems like an unnecessary and insurance policy based on my experience.

    Lee
  • JMDVMJMDVM Posts: 950 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Global Shipping Program is the only way I will sell. International buyers don't want to pay what it "truly" costs to send something internationally. I have had too many items get "lost". With the GSP, you can just ship to Kentucky, and then you are off the hook as a seller. As much as the buyers hate it, it is the ONLY way I will ship Internationally! >>



    +1
  • Fergman78Fergman78 Posts: 82
    I have sold quite a bit through the GSP lately. So far I have had no complaints from buyers and I like the peace of mind knowing once my item successfully makes it to Kentucky I no longer have to worry about it.
    Twitter: @scott_NECC

  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The shipping headaches actually turned me off to collecting hockey. If you don't sell to Canada, which I don't anymore, it's not worth it.
    Mike
  • flash300flash300 Posts: 138 ✭✭
    One problem with the gsp that I have heard. if you sell multiple items to the same buyer you have to ship each item in its own package. and ebay ships out one item at a time

    Seller had 15 items to ship had to charge buyer 15 times to ship item to kc
    then buyer had to also pay ebay international price 15 times to get his items

    was over $ 400 to ship his items out needless to say no transaction happen
    http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/philsbucket/
  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi guys,

    I'm a Canadian buyer and seller. As a buyer, I don't understand how eBay can enforce import fees. Last I checked, Canadian customs was in charge of import fees.

    The last few years have been pretty discouraging for Canadian collectors when it comes to USPS, Canada Post, and eBay policy making.

    -Nathanael
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