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NEWPs: Paar, Olmutz and Karlsburg Talers

ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Have been a bit on a tear of recent. These are later 18th, early-mid 19th century pieces which are quite tough. The first, in particular, is seldom seen.

1794. Paar. Austria. Johann Wenzel (1744 - 1812) Half Convention Taler. Vienna Mint. Holzmair 72. Mont. 2951. Very scarce piece in any grade. Seems like a very early strike with a fabulous reverse. Mintage of 400. Scarce.

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1820. Austria. Bishopric State of Olmütz Taler. Rudolf Johannes Joseph Rainier von Habsburg-Lothringen (1819-1830). Archbishop and Cardinal, 1819/20-1831. Bust left. Crowned and mantled coat-of-arms. DAV-41. Suchomel/Videman 1205. Scarce in mint state. Areas of toning with sharp details. NGC MS-63.

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1865-E. Emperor of Austria Franz Joseph (1848-1916) Thaler. Karlsburg Mint. DAV-26. Herinek 479. KM-2244. One of the nicest in existance. Just luster and detail all over. PCGS MS-66.

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  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Nice! Cool do on the first one. I wonder how long it took at the salon? LOL image
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  • harashaharasha Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Wenceslaus half taler is stunning. Sending it out for certification if not already slabbed?
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes will send in. I am wondering if conservation can do something about the black spots on obverse?
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Hmm, good question. I am interested to see how that plays out indeed. NCS+NGC, or PCGS restoration?

    I, too love the 1794 Paar. The reverse is possibly the most stunning I've seen on any of the Talers you've posted. I would seriously be concerned about restoration damaging the luster of that reverse. It might be worthwhile to leave the black spots, so that you can rest assured knowing the reverse will not be impaired.
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool coins, congrats....
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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    I also love the engraving on the reverse of the 1794, just extraordinary.
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  • AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    That 1794 half taler is another great coin you have there , Zohar.
    Didn't see the black spots untill you mentioned it, difficult decision to make ,try to remove these, or let it be.
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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,828 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great pieces Z - yup luv that reverse too
  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Yeah after more thought I definitely would let it be. I wouldn't want to risk any damage to the toning on that reverse. Perhaps if I knew more about the chemical reactions then I might feel more comfortable.
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paar 1/2 Taler graded MS-63 ATS - very pleased!
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