1975 mini Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 – how to maximize the return?

BaltimoreYankee · July 23, 2013 11:56PM

I am considering selling this card. Seeking ideas on the best way to maximize the return. I know two PSA 9s sold for $1,400 and $1,500 on eBay but the price for PSA 8’s drops to $150. What could I expect an 8.5 to return?
Resubmitting is an option but this card was initially graded as trimmed even though it was self subbed from a BBCE sealed box. I don’t dare crack it out for fear of another ‘trimmed’ (even though it fills the holder). I think a review in the PSA holder is most likely a waste because of the theory that PSA would be prejudiced to the grade it was already given.
Any ideas? Maybe start on eBay with a really high ‘Buy It Now’ and take the price lower each week? Consign to Rick or to PWCC? Can anyone tell me the VCP for an 8.5? (Not sure if there even is a VCP for half-grades).

MBMiller25 · July 24, 2013 12:07AM

Here is VCP.

10/28/12 eBay Image feartheterps e***d BIN $449.99
6/15/12 eBay Image slugsports 0***h 13 $292.15
2/9/12 eBay Image probstein123 s***d 14 $339.34

stown · July 24, 2013 12:10AM

<< 10/28/12 eBay Image feartheterps e***d BIN $449.99 >>

That's Lee's account (aka CDsNuts), so I suggest sending PM and ask for his opinion.

MBMiller25 · July 24, 2013 12:21AM

I think your going to achieve what it is your trying to achieve via this board. There are plenty of Mini collectors on this board. Thats a nice Ryan. I would think someone would give you a nice offer on it, relative VCP. I would think that the last sale on VCP would be the basement of what that card is worth, with card pricing increasing like they have recently. I have $500 in my head as a good selling price. That's just about where the PSA 8.5 regular sized 75 Topps close, depending on centering.

Edit to add: Good Luck~!

Hallco · July 24, 2013 1:29AM

Ok I will play the devil's advocate.....

I have to ask...why sell it? Obviously if you need the money there's no explanation needed, but if not, it's a super card that collectors would be proud to have in their collection.

Bosox1976 · July 24, 2013 1:30AM

$500 here and $550 BIN on ebay without best offer.

itzagoner · July 24, 2013 1:37AM

<< Consign to Rick......? >>

indisputably.

galaxy27 · July 24, 2013 1:45AM

<< Consign to PWCC? >>

You'll be smiling like a Cheshire cat.

BaltimoreYankee · July 24, 2013 1:53AM

Hallco - To answer the why sell question: I don't need the money but I'm trying to end the year as close to 'even' between my hobby buying and selling as possible. Last year I ended at around $3K net 'out'. I was pretty much even through around May this year. Right now, I'm close to $600 on the net 'out' side. I do collect 1975 mini's of HOFers and do have an 8 OC Ryan. Qualifiers don't bother me too much.

70ToppsFanatic · July 24, 2013 2:18AM

PSA 8.5s usually seem to sell in the 2x-3x range compared to a PSA 8 in my experience with post war cards up to
the mid-70s.

Usually the ones that go closer to 3x are things like 1971s, 1975 minis, and other issues that PSA seems to look
at with a bit more scrutiny.

Good luck with your effort.

MiniDuff · July 24, 2013 2:50AM

Really depends on the multiple that a 9 carries to the 8. Many minis hardly carry a premium at all in 8.5 and few carry the premium they should. That said, key cards can break that rule a bit and none more so than the Ryan.

If it were my card, I would try to bump it or cross it to BVG and/or SGC before I sold it as is. You wont get PSA 9 money, but you will get more than PSA 8.5 money. Nice as it is, it is unlikely to bump simply because of what card it is.

All of that said, really nice card, and I would take 500 in a second if it were mine.

jgrigali · July 24, 2013 3:03AM

start with a reasonable, but high ebay auction listing.

markj111 · July 24, 2013 3:12AM

<< PSA 8.5s usually seem to sell in the 2x-3x range compared to a PSA 8 in my experience with post war cards up to
the mid-70s.

Usually the ones that go closer to 3x are things like 1971s, 1975 minis, and other issues that PSA seems to look
at with a bit more scrutiny.

What examples do you have? The cards I have followed and/or bought have been around 1.5 X the 8 or less. Some sell for barely more than the 8. Most of my 8.5s are from thr 60s.

Cakes · July 24, 2013 3:57AM

<< Hallco - To answer the why sell question: I don't need the money but I'm trying to end the year as close to 'even' between my hobby buying and selling as possible. Last year I ended at around $3K net 'out'. I was pretty much even through around May this year. Right now, I'm close to $600 on the net 'out' side. I do collect 1975 mini's of HOFers and do have an 8 OC Ryan. Qualifiers don't bother me too much. >>

With everything you have already mentioned I would crack and re submit a couple times before I sold.

CollectorAtWork · July 24, 2013 4:05AM

BIN at $750. Reduce by $50 every month if the card doesn't sell. If it gets down to $600, and still hasn't sold yet, consign to PWCC.

Mickey71 · July 24, 2013 5:59AM

We're talking about a 75 mini in an 8.5

It's a $300-$400 card. Let's not get crazy. He's not Deans Cards.

BTW....that's a nice card and presents real well.

BaltimoreYankee · July 24, 2013 6:13AM

Thanks for all the advice, guys. Cakes, I don't dare crack and re-sub b/c PSA already erroneously said the card had evidence of trimming once before. I'm pretty much done subbing cards to them as it seems there's no consistency. It could easily come back an 8 or EOT.

I think the one risky thing about consigning is that you never what what the hammer price will be (as opposed to a BIN). I think Colletor At Work is on the right track: Maybe do a BIN at a high price (not quite that high) to see what happens and reduce a few times as needed.

PSamp77 · July 24, 2013 6:17AM

I would post it in the Sports Cards and Memorabilia Forum in the PSA message boards to draw interest and hope that someone makes you an offer.

If someone calls you out about not posting in the correct forum simply explain that selling the card here had never even crossed your mind and that wasn't your intention. Some members might not side with you but a few surely will and you should achieve the end result.

That is a very nice copy but not as rare a card as some might think (at least compared to many other late 70s key cards), I would sell it for around $300 if you got that offer.

I will start the bidding at $225 if you were taking offers.

handyman · July 24, 2013 6:20AM

Sell it for 5,000.00 Pesos

Thats a big number.

Just let it ride. The card will sell itself.

JoeBanzai · July 24, 2013 6:23AM

In my opinion the 8.5 grade is the kiss of death. I had a '71 Killebrew 8.5 and listed it several times at what I thought was a fair price (less than halfway between 8 and 9 pricing).

Finally did sell it as I needed the money, but not too happy about it.

Good luck!

Joe

BaltimoreYankee · July 24, 2013 6:28AM

gloves - I think most people here know I'm above board. If I wanted to sell the card on the PSA forums, I would use the BST board. It's how I roll.

CDsNuts · July 24, 2013 8:07AM

I suggest selling it for $449.99.

MiniDuff · July 24, 2013 9:01AM

Based on what Lee? :-P

Seriously though, if you are intent at going fishing, put it out there at a nutso BIN with a best offer option. It beats being nutso and letting it rot as you gradually lower it.

If not for the sale Lee had at the 449 bin, I would not believe that number possible for this card, and I have handled a LOT of mini Ryans over time.

BaltimoreYankee · July 24, 2013 9:34AM

Paul - Would definitely mention that, plus it comes with free gum and wrappers.

1975 mini Nolan Ryan PSA 8.5 – how to maximize the return?

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