Centsles does it again....

YQQ · May 12, 2013 5:47AM

MS 65??? Maybe AU50
I wish there was a way to stop them..

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/380634787916?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

worldcoinguy · May 12, 2013 5:58AM

I think they are paddling through a hail storm on the reverse.

TwoKopeiki · May 12, 2013 7:24AM

I can only imagine the shock and disappointment of a collector or their family bringing a collection of NNC "rarities" to a local dealer or numismatic insurance company for assessment or liquidation. What a shame. On the other hand, in our world of technology and information, how hard is it to know the value, quality, and consistency of third party grading companies? Bah, it's still a shame.

Zohar · May 12, 2013 7:39AM

Early on I bought an NNC thinking its a legit company. Ended up being a mounted piece. I call it very good tuition money for me.

MacCrimmon · May 12, 2013 8:38AM

<< <i>MS 65??? Maybe AU50
I wish there was a way to stop them..

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/380634787916?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 >>

On what basis is the image an AU50 (to me the image color might be a bit odd)? I'd have to see the coin in the flesh, but it looks to be at least 63-quality. Whether this guy's accuracy is always spot-on for NNC slab certs, IDK, but he can grade to PCGS standards quite well judging by his past performance in the 2004 PCGS World Series of Grading.

Compare it to PCGS grades.

marcmoish · May 12, 2013 9:04AM

While I'm usually in the grade slayers corner myself I tend to disagree with you on AU50.

This piece is def MS - really does look 63 maybe better... but DEF. NOT MS65, and yes you need to see in IN HAND as I would never buy anything in those holders. JMHO

worldcoinguy · May 12, 2013 9:12AM

I once bought a tough date EF-40 Indian Head cent in an NNC holder and it crossed to ANACS AU-58. Miracles do happen. Diclaimer - purchased from a local dealer who gave me the thumbs up on the quality.

7Jaguars · May 12, 2013 9:36AM

I had an NNC PCGS DCAM68 come back DCAM64 from our hosts. It was bought on that basis, and was happy with the coin as it was a very rare pattern.

YQQ · May 12, 2013 10:16AM

King has hair loss, lots of it, worn, coin on obv looks dull
On a MS 65 one wants to see full hair, clean full hair and luster.
the rev has huge issues. On a 65 one needs to see and recognize the letters HBC on the side of the first piece of cargo.
these marks?? for sure not bag marks.... on a 65 maybe a couple of very tiny bag marks....and tons of clean luster, depth and details.
U guys say MS63??? Not even on a very good day based on Canadian standards.
This coin in MS65 trends at $ 17,000!!!!!!
NOW, if any of you would have a true 65 would you not make sure you could maximize your profits by having it graded by a reputable TPG?
They are praying on the unsuspecting! and they know it.
we all know, grading is just an opinion.
Again, my opinion is AU50, based on what I see.
and, there is absolutely NO reason for them to take the pictures in the slab. Why do they do it? to hide the real condition. it is very obvious.
it is just that simple.....IMO.

coinpictures · May 12, 2013 11:51AM

This coin could be anywhere from AU50 through MS65. It might be original or messed with. Since the coin was imaged using a flatbed scanner, there is no way to know what it actually looks like in hand.

Given the seller's track record, I would be wary, but since there is a 14-day return privilege, if the price is right, why not?

Of course, the price has already gone past the point I would consider "right"...

LochNESS · May 12, 2013 3:22PM

<< <i>Of course, the price has already gone past the point I would consider "right"... >>

FWIW

Centsles does it again....

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