New Purchase: 's Heerenberg (Netherlands) St. Oswalddaalder (ca. 1577-78)

Dennis88 · January 13, 2013 9:54AM

's Heerenberg. St. Oswalddaalder, N.D. (ca 1577-78). Delmonte 577

Zohar · January 13, 2013 9:55AM

I like it!

OldEastside · January 13, 2013 9:57AM

Steve

Dennis88 · January 13, 2013 10:04AM

Thanks guys. I'll see if I can come up with some more information. This coin was struck 8 miles from the town where I used to live before I moved to the US, which is the main reason I really wanted one. I've been in the actual room where this coin was struck as well (it's more a cellar than anything else)

Dennis88 · January 13, 2013 10:16AM

Here's the building it was struck. It dates back to the 14th century.

They still strike souvenir tokens:

harasha · January 13, 2013 11:38AM

Looks like lion and human are yelling at each other!

JCMhouston · January 13, 2013 11:49AM

Very cool.

theboz11 · January 13, 2013 7:47PM

marcmoish · January 13, 2013 10:12PM

That's a cool pick up for a circ piece like that - impressive

Andres · January 14, 2013 1:11AM

Very nice coin Dennis.

Its actually a Delmonte 575 , (Passon 2.19.9) the 577 (Passon 2.19.10) is about the same coin but without the denomination mentioned in the legend.
this one has the denomination x30xSTVFE in the upper part above the scepter of Sint Oswald.
the mintmastermark is a grenadepommel , above the head of the lion.

both brothers count Willem IV and count Frederik were notorious for issuing underweight and lower silver purity coins.
2 of their mintmasters, van Eembrugge & van Bossenhoven , got the death sentence for issuing bad coins.

Dennis88 · January 14, 2013 1:47PM

<< <i>Very nice coin Dennis.

Its actually a Delmonte 575 , (Passon 2.19.9) the 577 (Passon 2.19.10) is about the same coin but without the denomination mentioned in the legend.
this one has the denomination x30xSTVFE in the upper part above the scepter of Sint Oswald.
the mintmastermark is a grenadepommel , above the head of the lion. >>

Sorry Andres, but you are incorrect. Both Delmonte 575 (2.06.12 in my Passon, 2nd edition, p. 50) has the same lettering as 577 but a closed (rounded) crown. Delmonte 577 (2.06.14) has an open (pointed crown). Both have the denomination spelled out in the legend and are otherwise the same. There is a variety (Delmonte 577 var., 2.6.10) with a different legend (no denomination and SANCT.OSWALDUS. instead of SANCT.OSWALD.) but that one is the only variety without denomination.

Also this is not mintmastermark "pomegranate", it is the "house mark" or globe paired with the rose. The pomegranate mark looks like a weird blob. I'm working on getting good images for all the different marks which supposedly were all used under Clemens van Eembrugge as decoration instead of beig true mintmastermarks.

Dennis

Andres · January 14, 2013 8:53PM

Hi Dennis,

OK, my info is from the Passon first edition (red cover) I wanted to buy the 2nd edition (green cover) last year, but I understand a new one , a 3rd edition, will be issued this year (blue cover)

Andres

Dennis88 · January 15, 2013 1:41AM

<< <i>Hi Dennis,

OK, my info is from the Passon first edition (red cover) I wanted to buy the 2nd edition (green cover) last year, but I understand a new one , a 3rd edition, will be issued this year (blue cover)

Andres >>

I wouldn't be so sure about the 3rd edition coming out this year...last I heard it was "in the works" but it went very, very slowly.

Hopefully they keep the numbering the same...it would be very annoying if they changed it again.

Dennis88 · January 19, 2013 2:00AM

Speaking of Clemens van Eemsbrugge, here he is with his employees. This painting dates back to the same time as my coin, perhaps a few years later at most.

STLNATS · January 19, 2013 2:19AM

Nifty coin but the real WOW factor in your post is the pic of the mint and the workers. Just love this sort of thing and it just brings the coin to life.

Thanks for a great post.

lordmarcovan · January 19, 2013 2:14PM

<< <i>I like it! >>

Me too... very much!

The half-figure portrait is very striking, and the lion on the reverse equally so. That design would be really awesome looking with some darker toning and lighter highlights to set it off (i.e., the "circulation cameo" look I go on about so often).

I agree that the pictures of the mint building and the painting of the folks who worked there really provide the "WOW" factor, as STLNATS said. The paintings of that place and time are to me the next best thing to photography, with their incredible realism. I also love that there is a guy in a court jester costume on the right - what's that all about? Did the mint have its own "fool" on staff?

Very neat. Thanks for posting all that.

Andres · January 19, 2013 7:09PM

Thats the official dress for the youngest member of the minters crew. "" het muntgezelkostuum ""

lordmarcovan · January 19, 2013 8:37PM

Hmm. I wonder what the job description entailed, if one had to wear bells on one's head?

Andres · January 20, 2013 12:07AM

It would have said: Free Beer

during the job and Free company clothes

dizzlecc · January 22, 2013 9:25AM

Cool coin, great story and history. It is really well struck.

MrEureka · January 24, 2013 11:14AM

...St. Oswalddaalder

Interesting. I thought that all of the St. Oswalddaalders were of the Flowing Hair type, 1794-95.

New Purchase: 's Heerenberg (Netherlands) St. Oswalddaalder (ca. 1577-78)

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