NEWP: Hungary 1/4 Taler Hogmouth - Colors!

Zohar · November 29, 2012 12:04PM

Very neat piece I really liked. Tougher given higher circulation.

JCMhouston · November 29, 2012 12:06PM

Very nice Z, I really like that design with the square inside the circle.

worldcoinguy · November 29, 2012 12:16PM

Nice colors on that piece and great design is icing on the cake. Looks broad for a 1/4 taler.

EVillageProwler · November 29, 2012 12:36PM

Excellent!

WorldTypeSet · November 29, 2012 1:03PM

Looks like a Klippe ... very cool.

marcmoish · November 29, 2012 10:07PM

Boy that is one cool candidate for wowzer of the week!
Luv it a lot!

Zohar · November 29, 2012 10:16PM

I knew Marc would like this one.... Interesting how by now we learn about each others preferences

Senex · November 29, 2012 10:43PM

Nice! It always amazes me to see a 300+ year old coin in MS. Think of how many owners it must have had over the centuries!

bronzemat · November 30, 2012 1:01AM

Nice new leopold. Lovely colors.

Are the 1/4 Talers rare? I though 1/4 T. were 15 kreuzers?

First time I am seeing a 15 kreuzer with 1/4 on the coin.

Hussulo · November 30, 2012 4:39AM

Very nice Z. Sharp obverse and some nice colours showing through.

Zohar · November 30, 2012 4:41AM

1/4 Talers exist yet generally worn due to circulation. 15KR existed in some series as did the 60 KR equating to the Taler.

EVillageProwler · November 30, 2012 7:15AM

I thought the 60Kr was roughly 2/3T?

theboz11 · November 30, 2012 7:18AM

Zohar · November 30, 2012 12:45PM

From WIKI:

1486: Sigismund of Tirol issues his 31.93g Guldengroschen of 60 Kreuzers and 937.5 fineness.

1551: A new money ordinance is decreed in Augsburg that lowers the guldiner's purity to 882.0, but raises the weight of the coin to 31.18g. This returns the coin to being the equal value of a Goldgulden. The Thaler is now equivalent to 72 Kreuzer.

1559: After the death of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, yet another money ordinance is decreed at Augsburg, this time radically altering the coin (now to be called a Reichsguldiner) down to a mass of just 24.62g, but returning the coin to 931.0 fineness. This sets the Guldiner to be equivalent to 60 Kreuzer once again.

marcmoish · December 1, 2012 8:42AM

hey Z yup correct and true

I keep coming back to have a lookee on this one.
Just an amazing piece - it has all the factors needed like a remarkable obverse in terms of instant eye appeal.
Toned color scheme rocks too.

The strike is crisp and original for a coin 300+ years like Senex notes its absurd to find it as such.
Totally original b/c you can't fake that look so its totally original.

Well graded? You bet! I can see it in a 64 holder too - but these are tough to grade when you get to such levels.
Whats the diff between a 63 and a 66 in such a piece? very very difficult to tell - more liklely a personal judgement call.
Abit more gold on the tail or a mini nick less on the reverse? Naaa buy the coin if you got that question.

The reverse while more muted in terms of eye appal and chareristics of the obverse still carries its own.

So ye you did good and you know it!

coinsarefun · December 9, 2012 9:46AM

OMG....I want this.....but probably can't afford it

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