Can I get any thoughts on 1952 Topps Pee Wee Reese for auction

jrboles

Friends

Apologies up front in my inability to create a link but a copied the URL to an auction for a 1952 Topps Pee Wee Reese. Sharp looking card. May I please solicit your opinions?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-PEE-WEE-REESE-Red-Back-333-Baseball-Card-HIGH-BRIGHT-CLEAN-CARD-/361413663623?hash=item5425eedb87:g:~gIAAOSw5VFWKBPQ

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divecchia

Link to Pee-Wee Reese



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Stone193

Have no real idea - we did have a few 52T experts a while back - especially with regards to the Mantle.



I - personally - don't love the way the back looks - don't like the stock color/texture - and the stock on the front sure looks white.



I'm leaning towards reprint.

pclpads

A 63 year old card of a '52T hi# HOFer that crisp looking just screams to be in a PSA slab to max out the value / return for the seller. So, as it isn't, that begs the ? "Why Not?" I vote reprint or ALT.

Stewie

Seller is good. I believe the card is, too. If you guys take a good look at the front surface, you'll notice the diamond-shaped area with the word Dodgers looks washed out and the color faded. The card would likely get a PD qualifier, so the seller must think that a raw sale would prove to be more profitable.

bbcemporium

I think the card is authentic, but trimmed on the right side

begsu1013

i certainly am not one of those experts, but if it's a reprint, it's a very, very good one.



it has the dash thru the "j" in july in his birthdate.

the wash out that stewie is referring to is a typical feature on his card.

alignment on the back is correct. even has the typical upper left shift.



the only thing that raises the brow to me is:



could be a slight trim.

the © seems to be tilted.

and on the baseball that surrounds 333, the stiches seem to be deep dark laser ink, borderline purplish. could be the scan.



it's being sold as original, so if 15 minutes of extra hassle time isn't that big a big deal to ya, take the chance...

Stewie

Agree on the typical washout feature, however, from my perspective, the color looks more faded than the customary appearance of a best case properly inked example.



Re: the seller....he does those scans way too hot and has since early '13 when he first started up on eBay under the current ID. I liked when few had been aware of his stuff what with the hot scans and $5.95 shipping scaring people away, there were a few nice raw cards to be had way back when. I'd feel he's worth the trust and wouldn't be offering up a slice 'n' dice for that kinda scratch.



Just my o-pin-yawn. ;-)

arex

By no means am I an expert either but the top right edge gives me pause. the cut, going left to right has a bit of a "rough" edge to it. then about 3/4 of the way across it appears to get smoother. Could be my eyes.

Also looks like the bottom edge could be trimmed? Is it me or does the center of the card have a slight inward curve then comes back towards the corners. Ive heard trimmed corners create a "batwing" and that looks like it to me.

Again my opinion and $2 will get you a cup of coffee.

Stewie

Wavy left border. I see it when I scroll up and down with the magnification. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that the card was rejected for grading due to whatever PSA decided was wrong with it. Were that the case, perhaps, a question directed at the seller to clarify would be appropriate as well.

Dboneesq

Let me start by saying I know nothing about the seller. He may be the most honest seller out there. However, when I see an expensive card being sold raw, I like to see if the seller sells graded cards as well. It looks like he does sell graded cards, although nothing as valuable as this card.



Upon first look, this card seems like it would grade AT LEAST a "6". That being said, I would think the seller knows that this card would bring a LOT more if it wound up in a PSA "6" slab. My thoughts are that there is some kind of "problem" with the card that we cannot readily determine with a high degree of certainty from the scan.



This card in a PSA "6" slab would sell North of $1,000.00.

Stewie

Well, nothing as "valuable" unless you count the graded Goudey Gehrig cards he recently sold. Or, just notice how many raw 52s he's sold the past few weeks, or whatever/whenever. But, there's no argument in this, I'll just go on record as saying it's a nice looking card. IF the card was rejected, that doesn't mean it couldn't find its way into a holder eventually. There's absolutely no argument about history proving something which has been discussed here quite often.

Dboneesq

Originally posted by: Stewie
Well, nothing as "valuable" unless you count the graded Goudey Gehrig cards he recently sold. Or, just notice how many raw 52s he's sold the past few weeks, or whatever/whenever. But, there's no argument in this, I'll just go on record as saying it's a nice looking card. IF the card was rejected, that doesn't mean it couldn't find its way into a holder eventually. There's absolutely no argument about history proving something which has been discussed here quite often.

Sorry Stewie ... I only went back 2 months and 300 feedbacks. I just saw the graded Goudey he sold for $850.00 in early August. That card WAS sitting in a PSA slab ... which would now make me feel a bit uncomfortable bidding on the Pee Wee, as the seller knows that a PSA slab can add a lot of value. As I said in my prior post, maybe he is very honest and just can't be bothered with sending in cards to be graded. He wouldn't be the first to feel that way. Good luck to the seller and to anyone who purchases the Reese.

Stewie

I feel kind of awkward trying to defend the guy just because I've had success as his buyer. I'm certain he CAN be bothered with grading because his PSA stuff was done very recently. So, to clarify, that would give me the distinct impression that IF he sent the card in for grading AND it was rejected, that COULD BE an explanation for what is currently being seen in his auction.



My intention is to offer the OP enough useful info that he can make his own judgement about purchasing such a valuable item. I hope this has been enough.

begsu1013

it isn't. please go on....



"really. explore the space!"

Stewie

You got it Bruce.

begsu1013

hey, i put my pants on just like the resta ya!



except when I do it...i make gold records, baby.

Stone193

I agree with Kirk - the top of the back I posted looks wavy.



Glad to hear many think it's real.



That's not one of my strong points. Looked "too" good to me.



I do believe tho, if sent to PSA, and real, it may come back altered.



Nice card if real - otherwise.

Sdub

Originally posted by: begsu1013
hey, i put my pants on just like the resta ya!

except when I do it...i make gold records, baby.

More cow bell needed on this thread.

jrboles

Gang



Thanks for the responses. Still watching and see it is approaching $600. Based and responses my guess is authentic with a couple potential tics. It seems a calculated risk for a card that presents quite well but may be getting a bit high for my blood. We will see in about 6 hours and 15 minutes.

seebelow

And survey says?

Dboneesq

Went for $1,200.00+.

I guess the buyer thinks he can get it in a "7" or better slab.