'74 Nolan Ryan PSA 9 (PWCC Certified) back again
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First, not my card.
There was some discussion of this card a while back when it was purchased for +/- $1,600. Personally, I thought a big gamble on a 9 that might crack out to be a 10. Surprisingly, its' back on the auction block. Just can't imagine this thing going for that amount again. Will be interesting to see if the 2nd place bidder in the original auction peeks their head again. 2nd place bidder (s***e) had no previous bids for anything. Winner (9***7) had two retractions. Than a literal chasm to the 3rd place bidder.
I did purchase a PWCC certified card ('72 Rose in Action) and absolutely love it. But only paid a slight premium. Reviewing at my cardboard forensic lab, it looks as good as advertised.
First, not my card.
There was some discussion of this card a while back when it was purchased for +/- $1,600. Personally, I thought a big gamble on a 9 that might crack out to be a 10. Surprisingly, its' back on the auction block. Just can't imagine this thing going for that amount again. Will be interesting to see if the 2nd place bidder in the original auction peeks their head again. 2nd place bidder (s***e) had no previous bids for anything. Winner (9***7) had two retractions. Than a literal chasm to the 3rd place bidder.
I did purchase a PWCC certified card ('72 Rose in Action) and absolutely love it. But only paid a slight premium. Reviewing at my cardboard forensic lab, it looks as good as advertised.
Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
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i do not know if he purchased his own card in this instance, very well could be. also, i would be about 99% confident that it was reviewed for the bump at least a time or two and apparently still in the 9 holder. still say it looks like a tremendous card from the scans, however i am wondering if there isn't some small surface issue w/ her that cant be seen thru the pics that's kept her there.
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Thank you. What did I do wrong on the link? Followed exact directions from some previous posts.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
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<< <i>PSA 9 Nolan Ryan PWCC High End >>
Thank you. What did I do wrong on the link? Followed exact directions from some previous posts. >>
You clicked 'https' instead of 'http', hopefully the updated forum software will prevent this from being an issue in the near future.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
This should take away from the "certified high end" label in this case. It is clearly a sweet 9 but it detracts from those with aspirations to bump."
I was wondering about this when the "certified high end" label came out. Do you think there is any sort of bias to cards with the label as to PSA bumping them?
It comes down to what your goals are with the purchase. If you want the card because you agree with PWCC that it looks great for the grade and are willing to pay top dollar to add it to your collection you won't be disappointed. If you are looking at the card for investment purposes thinking you have a great chance to bump you may be disappointed.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
Dave
you guys are spot on with your discussion. nice pickup sdub.
brent answered w/ the sticker can be placed on at anytime you wish or maybe request it not be applied and then have it applied again should you ever decide to resell.
luckily it was an optional request but my concerns was whether or not it was an actual good thing to have on there when subbing for a review. i think we would all agree that based on the initial prices that were being paid, that at least one review was going to occur and perhaps occasional bumps were likely to follow.
either way, our slabbed collecting industry isn't too monstrutive and i am sure someone, somewhere at psa has seen the program and it's implied hints.
with that being said, i don't know too many businesses that would grant rewards simply based on another's opinion. not claiming that's the approach here or that bumps are even a 30% given. the program is marketed as "it's simply at the higher end of the spectrum for that particular grade", but still. could there be some sort of resentment that they feel like they are saying that psa didn't get it right? maybe. again, not it's intent. but the sticker IS there right in the grader's face. if he didn't know about the program, then i certainly think they would search to find out "what is this sticker all about?". is there any other company out there that places it's company sticker on psa's slabs for anything other than advertising purposes?
at the end of the day, i just don't think it would be a good thing to sub the "high end" card w/ the pwcc sticker on it. especially when it could be applied later at any date...
and just outta curiosity, are there any cards thus far that have received a bump?
As I stated, I do own a "high end' card from PWCC and I'm very happy with it. The last thing I thought about was trying to bump it to a 10. It's just a very nice 9, as the certificate states. I paid a little more, and that's fine with me.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
<< <i> As I stated, I do own a "high end' card from PWCC and I'm very happy with it. The last thing I thought about was trying to bump it to a 10. It's just a very nice 9, as the certificate states. I paid a little more, and that's fine with me. >>
I share your mindset. I think it is worth paying a reasonable premium for a card you are completely satisfied with that you wanted to add to your PC. This obviously holds true for any sweet card that you are going after, not just the PWCC sticker. The trouble comes in when someone is trying to hit a grand slam with a review/bump and the goal of flipping the card.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
by what I said earlier. The sticker is a marketing effort to drive better prices and is aimed at those
who either don't know better or are just too busy to take the time to do the evaluations themselves.
It's the same issue as buying the slab instead if buying the card.
Dave
<< <i>I collect cards that I feel are high end, not PWCC stickers telling me what Brent thinks. I stand
by what I said earlier. The sticker is a marketing effort to drive better prices and is aimed at those
who either don't know better or are just too busy to take the time to do the evaluations themselves.
It's the same issue as buying the slab instead if buying the card. >>
PWCC is in business to make money and make money for their consignors. Is the card better than most 9's, maybe?
<< <i>I collect cards that I feel are high end, not PWCC stickers telling me what Brent thinks. I stand
by what I said earlier. The sticker is a marketing effort to drive better prices and is aimed at those
who either don't know better or are just too busy to take the time to do the evaluations themselves.
It's the same issue as buying the slab instead if buying the card. >>
+1
All the other superlatives are just noise, imo.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
agreed both about the marketing strategy and that it is a definitely a higher end 9.