1957/58 Topps Basketball Pack
jgrigali
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jgrigali
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They were gai encapsulated.
<< <i>So they graded it themselves and are now selling it? >>
Steve only authenticates, PSA grades.
<< <i>So they graded it themselves and are now selling it? >>
In truth, BBCE only authenticates for PSA. He doesn't give them the numerical grade.
Although I think you are taking issue with the fact that he is selling something that he authenticated.
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<< <i>So they graded it themselves and are now selling it? >>
In truth, BBCE only authenticates for PSA. He doesn't give them the numerical grade.
Although I think you are taking issue with the fact that he is selling something that he authenticated. >>
Which is the same as all the other unopened on his site. What business sense would it make to sell stuff he didn't believe was authentic?
ETA: Forgot the point of the thread... HOLY COW on that pack!
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<< <i>So they graded it themselves and are now selling it? >>
In truth, BBCE only authenticates for PSA. He doesn't give them the numerical grade.
Although I think you are taking issue with the fact that he is selling something that he authenticated. >>
Which is the same as all the other unopened on his site. What business sense would it make to sell stuff he didn't believe was authentic? >>
Let's be honest: it isn't mentioned much because we all trust that Steve is honest. But it is a conflict of interest that he is both an authenticator and a dealer of unopened material. In theory, there are a lot of bad things he could do that this arrangement would facilitate.
<< <i>Let's be honest: it isn't mentioned much because we all trust that Steve is honest. But it is a conflict of interest that he is both an authenticator and a dealer of unopened material. In theory, there are a lot of bad things he could do that this arrangement would facilitate. >>
You can say it is, but you'd have to say the same thing about all PSA graders/authenticators... and even moreso them, because Steve has no say in the number grade assigned (which can really drive value). That's why PSA is considered the leader of this industry... we trust them to hire quality "experts" and to handle any issues that may arise accordingly. I truly think the only conflict of interest would exist if BBCE is sending in packs for grading themselves. If these are being bought from auctions or purchased as part of a collection, then I don't really see any conflict... but that's just my opinion.
<< <i>I truly think the only conflict of interest would exist if BBCE is sending in packs for grading themselves. If these are being bought from auctions or purchased as part of a collection, then I don't really see any conflict... but that's just my opinion. >>
I agree. Without self-submitting, a third party would have to be involved for any shenanigans to be possible. And with third party involvement, improper activity would be possible whether he was a dealer or not.
as far as steve , this has been discussed at nauseam before, I am sure a search can yield some solid reasons why this is the only way it can be otherwise steve wouldn't do it. the authenticating for psa is such a small part of his revenue , there is no way he would give up his business to authenticate for psa if that was required
<< <i>pack is already gone , what was it listed for? >>
$15K
How about a new thread about this one
<< <i>pack is already gone , what was it listed for?
as far as steve , this has been discussed at nauseam before, I am sure a search can yield some solid reasons why this is the only way it can be otherwise steve wouldn't do it. the authenticating for psa is such a small part of his revenue , there is no way he would give up his business to authenticate for psa if that was required >>
Exactly.
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<< <i>I missed it - has it been taken down?! I would have loved to see a picture of it. >>
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<< <i>I missed it - has it been taken down?! I would have loved to see a picture of it. >>
Old holder, yes??
It'll be out on Monday..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i> . too bad gai never had a population report.
It'll be out on Monday.. >>
that was the answer they always told me when i asked about a population report. maybe you worked for them?!
<< <i>$15k pack listing
How about a new thread about this one >>
That '55 AA cello is way over priced IMHO, but if someone is willing to pay that then maybe not.
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<< <i>$15k pack listing
How about a new thread about this one >>
That '55 AA cello is way over priced IMHO, but if someone is willing to pay that then maybe not. >>
especially when there are 56 graded psa packs for this issue and only 6 for the basketball pack and both are $15K
<< <i>How many cards come in this pack? >>
<< <i>Anyone know the answer to this? Thanks!
<< <i>How many cards come in this pack? >>
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Those were 6 cards per pack.
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<< <i>Anyone know the answer to this? Thanks!
<< <i>How many cards come in this pack? >>
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Those were 6 cards per pack. >>
<< <i>this is just a guess--but I do not think the fortunate buyer will be ripping that pack
pic showing now....thanks...
so who's the grail card in this year or is it just the rarity that makes the price?
<< <i>sorry i missed this one...ugh,....sold quick for 15k..wow...
pic showing now....thanks...
so who's the grail card in this year or is it just the rarity that makes the price? >>
Also recall when Mark Murphy was selling them for $1,000. Sure missed out on that one!