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1971 & 1972 cello pack question?

begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
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since they were just ahead of my time...did the 1971 & 72 cello packs (with the box) have shrink wrap around the actual boxes?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.

    The packs themselves were wrapped in cello but the outer boxes were not.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    72 cello

    gotta guy trying to shuck me this, so obviously stay away. anyone else seen one of these?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>72 cello

    gotta guy trying to shuck me this, so obviously stay away. anyone else seen one of these? >>



    Phony as a 3 dollar bill.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    awesome! thanks for the save!
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>72 cello

    gotta guy trying to shuck me this, so obviously stay away. anyone else seen one of these? >>



    Phony as a 3 dollar bill. >>


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  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭
    is it not possible that someone aftermarket shrink-wrapped the outer box as well? I guess you'd have to open it to verify the inner card bundle was wrapped to know for sure.



    << <i>72 cello

    gotta guy trying to shuck me this, so obviously stay away. anyone else seen one of these? >>

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    not sure that would be worth a $400 gamble...

    grote15 you sound pretty knowledgeable when it comes to early cellos....you 100% sure that they didn't come shrink wrapped?
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
    Doesn't aftermarket shrink wrapping add value to unopened? I see people getting premiums for shrink wrapping! I'm soooo confused! image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Doesn't aftermarket shrink wrapping add value to unopened? I see people getting premiums for shrink wrapping! I'm soooo confused! image >>




    Good call! image

  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭


    << <i>Doesn't aftermarket shrink wrapping add value to unopened? I see people getting premiums for shrink wrapping! I'm soooo confused! image >>



    This comment rules
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image


    Snuffy we need a pic! Get to work!
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Way to dangerous! Too many ways to face the dreaded banhammer!

    image >>





    No prob. Didn't realize you were sent to the bench.


    Bob in case you didn't know, snuff dog made some amazing photoshoped pics.

  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭


    << <i>not sure that would be worth a $400 gamble...

    grote15 you sound pretty knowledgeable when it comes to early cellos....you 100% sure that they didn't come shrink wrapped? >>



    Really? Do your own research then.

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nolan Ryan


    I see that you already have a 10.

    Outside of the wrapping, does anyone have any knowledge if Nolan Ryan can be on the front of a cello? I guess in theory anyone could but some of you know the sequencing and perhaps it is highly unlikely.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the shrinkwrap had the BBCE imprint, that would be a different story, but the purpose of that shrinkwrap is to create a false sense of factory sealed authenticity with a star card on top. Topps did not shrinkwrap any of the outer boxes they used from 1970-1972. There is zero chance that pack is authentic.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
    But I see people selling shrink-wrapped unopen that has no imprint on the shrink-wrap that they claim comes from BBCE. So that stuff is bootleg? Its only good if it has the imprint? I even see people selling unopen with no shrink wrap but saying it came from BBCE. Whats that about? There's even people selling card board shipping boxes saying it came from BBCE with letters of authenticity that do not match anything on the shipping box. Oh My! This unopen stuff is so confusing! image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BBCE used clear shrinkwrap but with sticker or business card years ago. If you don't see either, I would not assume it's from BBCE based on word of seller, though I see some packs being sold that I know did come from BBCE, as I recognize the seller.

    I belive Steve charges a very nominal fee ($5 if I'm not mistaken) to shrinkwrap a box with the old clear wrap, if you want it in the new wrap.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
    Just pray this guy doesn't order some business cards from vista print and a shrink wrap machine!

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  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    I did not get a link to an eBay auction--just a photo bucket picture link--so I do not know what the seller claims. Not that it makes any difference. I would never buy this pack--just because it is outer wrapped and Topps did not, as mentioned, wrap the cello boxes themselves.

    having said that, some people did get creative pre-PSA grading to protect their unopened packs and racks. You all would be surprised at the measures I took to protect my unopened way before PSA and GAI started grading them


    But I see people selling shrink-wrapped unopen that has no imprint on the shrink-wrap that they claim comes from BBCE. So that stuff is bootleg? Its only good if it has the imprint? I even see people selling unopen with no shrink wrap but saying it came from BBCE. Whats that about? There's even people selling card board shipping boxes saying it came from BBCE with letters of authenticity that do not match anything on the shipping box. Oh My! This unopen stuff is so confusing!


    and selling and trying to sell are 2 very different things
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
    Good to know people don't get fooled on ebay! image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just pray this guy doesn't order some business cards from vista print and a shrink wrap machine!

    image >>



    You can always ship the box to Steve to have him shrinkwrap again if you are leery of the seller in that case. Some even have added the BBCE address as a confirmed paypal address.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    thanks so much grote...glad I posted. luckily, I did my research (w. your help) and wont look like a jmoron.



    *did not spell check
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689


    << <i>thanks so much grote...glad I posted. luckily, I did my research (w. your help) >>



    Good Answer!!!!! and Good Answers!!!!

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  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭✭
    Late to the thread, but will echo Tim's comments. These came with the cards wrapped and the cardboard box NOT wrapped.

    The pictured pack is completely fabricated.


    Dave
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BBCE never shrink wrapped individual wax or cello packs until very recently, assuming they even do now.
    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,771 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BBCE never shrink wrapped individual wax or cello packs until very recently, assuming they even do now. >>



    They have done so by request for a while now, though obviously this is not one of those times.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BBCE never shrink wrapped individual wax or cello packs until very recently, assuming they even do now. >>



    I have a 1970 super cello (33 card, green box 3rd series) wrapped by Steve.

    They will do if if you ask for it



    Dave
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