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Is this the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning?

stevekstevek Posts: 28,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
All bubbles normally end with frenzied buying from the public, and that could be happening now which would signal the beginning of the end in the upward movement of gold. However, if the US and world economy eventually collapses to a small or large degree, this seemingly frenzied buying now, would be looked back upon as just the end of a controlled upward buying pattern, with the significant high price rise still to come.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    buying has been frenzied since $600 gold. While the paper market could pop when speculators come to their senses, the physical market is controlled by strong fundamentals and a weak dollar. Keep your eye on the dollar, not on the gold.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are national banks, banks, ETFs, investment funds, etc etc etc considered the buying "public"? I can't say that I think so.

  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭
    i see no "frenzy" in the general public, I know of no one who ownes or is thinking of buying gold yet. It appears to be just getting on their general radar.
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  • JulioJulio Posts: 2,501
    Gold has not gone parabolic; not yet. Take care. jws
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are national banks, banks, ETFs, investment funds, etc etc etc considered the buying "public"? I can't say that I think so. >>


    Since they are buying on behalf of investors they are considered the buying public. Central banks, i.e the Fed, are not considered the buying public.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    They've kicked the can down the road it's only going to get worse globally and no one can pull anyone else out. I ask myself is it better now than when I saw this coming at $260 gold? IMO it's not even close it's multiples worse since we've squandered other peoples money. It wouldn't surprise me if they decide to put all of our 401k in Treasury's to protect us and giving them the income they need to continue the madness until the final failure of globalization.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They've kicked the can down the road it's only going to get worse globally and no one can pull anyone else out. I ask myself is it better now than when I saw this coming at $260 gold? IMO it's not even close it's multiples worse since we've squandered other peoples money. It wouldn't surprise me if they decide to put all of our 401k in Treasury's to protect us and giving them the income they need to continue the madness until the final failure of globalization. >>


    The can kickers realize they are on a cul-de-sac. They are losing their ability to hide it from the public.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We are ten years into the beginning. Jim Rogers seems to think another 20 years to go.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    until what?

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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Woodrow Wilson after signing the FRA, gave it 100 years till it imploads.
    Based on nothing I'd say it's the 3rd inning, heading for total anarchy,
    as the dollar becomes best served as a$$wipe.
    From talking with people the last week, no one is really concerned with anything.
    Most don't follow PM's or the markets, and are more concerned with Jersey Shore,
    the price of a Starbucks coffee and new apps. for their smart phone.
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  • << <i>until what? >>




    the mark
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761


    << <i>i see no "frenzy" in the general public, I know of no one who ownes or is thinking of buying gold yet. It appears to be just getting on their general radar. >>



    I see "frenzy" in the general public...selling their gold and silver at these levels!
    I have a couple of friends visiting from Italy and they were so proud they sold a bunch of silver and gold and made "good money".
    Then they showed me a St.Gaudens and three Indians $10 and asked for their value.
    My first sentence was: do not sell them where you sold your silver and gold!

    IMHO, we are far from the end...
    The member formerly known as Ciccio / Posts: 1453 / Joined: Apr 2009
  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No one knows.

    I stopped wondering and just follow my instincts. Those instincts presently are to "keep stacking". Now I am just adding gold as I have plenty of silver.

    So far my instincts are serving me well. image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    That light at the end of the tunnel is not the light of hope. It is the headlight

    of a super train heading straight for us, at 100 miles an hour. Should be where

    we are standing, a few short months from now. Lets say, 1/1/12.image
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    its unreal what ever it is
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    In the end, for better or for worse, all things are concluded. I do not see any permanent

    solution to the problem and we are on the cusp of a true depression. In 1929, almost 50%

    of the Nation lived on small farms and grew their own food. Today, it is quite a different story.

    We shall get thru this, however, before it is concluded, all will be harmed, all people will be hurt.

    Some a little more, some a little less, but all will be hurt, in some manner.

    It has always been that way and so shall it always be that way. Sad really, we never seem

    to learn from history. Stupidity seems to be genetically passed from one generation to another.
    There once was a place called
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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭



    "This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end. It is the end of the beginning" as the scene transitions to the sun rising above the clouds. The message implies the philosophical underpinnings of the story in that life is cyclical and starts anew with the death of the old, the true balance of universal existence.Millenium The Movie
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    When I was in Greece in 1994 I bought a tri-gold necklace for my mom at $300. Now probably worth $2000 now. If I only knew back then what I know now. I wasn't even a gold bug til 2004.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's half time, get a beer and a hot dog.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does my "$8,000 by 2012" thread that I started in 2008 seem a little less crazy these days? I'm sure 2012 is out. Maybe later this decade. Who knows when this debt bomb blows what gold will trade. It'll be a paradigm shift as it was in 1979-1980.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning?

    It's the continuation of the continuation image

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    "It was the best of times (FOR SOME)

    It was the worst of times (FOR MANY)

    It was the spring of hope (Banksters,Captains of Industry and those of inherited wealth)

    It was the winter of despair" ( Pretty much, most of the folks not included in the above)

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    In the end, a flaming comet shall blaze across the heavens,

    A very large bell will be heard to ring world wide

    A heavy book will make the sound of a final closing

    From the heavens above, will come a tortured sigh

    As salty tears of tremendous size, fall to the oceans blue and green below.

    We have failed the Maker, mankind has failed

    Hope has diminished from a bright torch to a small faintly glowing ember

    It is closing in on night and the darkness is falling

    As if to hide all of the shame and the suffering and the fear!:

    Perhaps, tomorrow, will be a little better and a little kinder, but tis a forlorn hope at best.

    An Original work by bear
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    Camelotimage


  • << <i>It's half time, get a beer and a hot dog. >>



    And if it's the Pregame, it's a beer and a hot dog! Go Bears!image
  • JoesMaNameJoesMaName Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It was the best of times (FOR SOME)

    It was the worst of times (FOR MANY)

    It was the spring of hope (Banksters,Captains of Industry and those of inherited wealth)

    It was the winter of despair ( Pretty much, most of the folks not included in the above)



    In the end, a flaming comet shall blaze across the heavens,

    A very large bell will be heard to ring world wide

    A heavy book will make the sound of a final closing

    From the heavens above, will come a tortured sigh

    As salty tears of tremendous size, fall to the oceans blue and green below.

    We have failed the Maker, mankind has failed

    Hope has diminished from a bright torch to a small faintly glowing ember

    It is closing in on night and the darkness is falling

    As if to hide all of the shame and the suffering and the fear!:

    Perhaps, tomorrow, will be a little better and a little kinder, but tis a forlorn hope at best.

    An Original work by bear >>



    With intro by Dickens - thought for sure the rest was from Milton - Nice job Bear!
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