collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
Older grade to boot. Have you considered sending it in to see if it is bump worthy? Think you have a 50-50 shot at 6.5, and maybe a 10% shot at a 7. Maybe worth a try, uncracked of course, I'd never crack a card like that.
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This is my point of reference. Becuase of technical grading a lot of nice cards are sitting in PSA 6 holders. That card is a great card but it is EX-MT which is still awesome for a card that old.
I am in agreement with dpeck. I'm going to enjoy this baby just as it is.
I really am not sweating what a TPG thinks (other than validating a card's authenticity); this card is the highlight of my 1954 raw set, in which it shall reside.
Besides...though many of you may be correct about the card's potential, my history with "bumps" and regrades is a stunning...0%
Gumby I guarentee if you saw the Ric Flair raw you would have said an 8.
The bottom line is you have one of the best baseball cards of all time and a PSA 6 is a killer card.
There are modern cards that trade at prices that are drastically higher and it is a joke. That is a piece of American history and the greatest home run hitter of all time.
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
Enjoy that awesome card and forget about the rest.
<< <i>Gumby I guarentee if you saw the Ric Flair raw you would have said an 8.
The bottom line is you have one of the best baseball cards of all time and a PSA 6 is a killer card.
There are modern cards that trade at prices that are drastically higher and it is a joke. That is a piece of American history and the greatest home run hitter of all time.
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
Enjoy that awesome card and forget about the rest. >>
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
You do know they are humans doing the grading, right?
Do you honestly feel you would be better than someone that is paid to look at sportscards in a professional grading environment for 40 plus hours a week?
edited to add: and back to the original post, that is a great looking card, congratulations SOM
PSA has set it's own standardized grading scale. It is very easy for them to examine a card and measure the centering, study the corners, and look for printing issues. This is not a hard thing to judge.
It costs money to get your cards graded and the results have even greater implications in the resale market. You get your cards graded for value and authenticity. For PSA cards to carry a premium in the marketplace one must place value on their opinion.
Almost every card I see posted on here someone is saying it should bump. I think they should get it right the first time. I don't think that is to much to ask.
Human beings make mistakes but this is not brain surgery. I showed my brothers girflriend a few cards just a couple of weeks ago and told her the things that card grading companies look for. In seconds she was pointing out the flaws.
If a card should bump it should be 5 out of every 2,000 graded. I see subs on here of 50 cards and people think 10 should bump. In realiaty if that is the case then PSA's opinin is worthless. If a card grading company gets it right 80% of the time there is no reason to even get cards graded.
I personally think PSA gets right almost all of the time and therefore geting cards to bump should be an extremely small number.
PSA has set it's own standardized grading scale. It is very easy for them to examine a card and measure the centering, study the corners, and look for printing issues. This is not a hard thing to judge.
It costs money to get your cards graded and the results have even greater implications in the resale market. You get your cards graded for value and authenticity. For PSA cards to carry a premium in the marketplace one must place value on their opinion.
Almost every card I see posted on here someone is saying it should bump. I think they should get it right the first time. I don't think that is to much to ask.
Human beings make mistakes but this is not brain surgery. I showed my brothers girflriend a few cards just a couple of weeks ago and told her the things that card grading companies look for. In seconds she was pointing out the flaws.
If a card should bump it should be 5 out of every 2,000 graded. I see subs on here of 50 cards and people think 10 should bump. In realiaty if that is the case then PSA's opinin is worthless. If a card grading company gets it right 80% of the time there is no reason to even get cards graded.
I personally think PSA gets right almost all of the time and therefore geting cards to bump should be an extremely small number. >>
You failed to answer if you think you can grade better than a professional doing it in a professional environment(something most armchair graders here have no idea that it affects seeing the card in the correct light and conditions greatly) for 40 plus hours a week. It's a simple yes or no question.
All the rest is alot of fluff about how you think things should be, etc... but if you have zero qualification to do an equal job to those professionals, your really just talking out of you know what.
You are paying for an qualified, money-backed opinion with guarantee, if you don't know what the differences are and have a bunch of low grade crap in your collection, it's your fault for not learning more. There are cards that are liners for the grade, and perceived differently.Not every card is a lock for the grade, I hope that you don't think all cards are perceived the exact same way by every single person and should always receive the exact same grade?
If you follow what some of the people here who have absolutely no clue how to grade a card's opinion over what a professional says, you really do believe that wrestling is real.
SOM, That is a stunner! IMO, that would bump a full grade. But, I wouldnt want to let that card out of my sight. Keep it for your set as it is. It is a beauty! Congrats!
<< <i>The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time. >>
Dpeck, you appear to be new to the grading side of the hobby, so I'll try to be clear.
Grading is a completely subjective aspect of the hobby. One person may see a card as a 6, another may see it as a 7. It's the human element in grading and regardless of the standards that PSA adheres to, there is still room for subjectivity. It is not a mathematical equation...it is an art. It is the nature of the beast in grading and people can either accept it or not. Either way, it's not something that will change.
Lastly, this Aaron card was graded before PSA implemented their .5 point system. It may get a .5 point bump simply for the fact that there was no middle ground between a 6 and a 7 when the card was last sent in for grading.
Lastly, this Aaron card was graded before PSA implemented their .5 point system. It may get a .5 point bump simply for the fact that there was no middle ground between a 6 and a 7 when the card was last sent in for grading.
I agree 100%, I can even see bumps of a full grade from time to time.
Bumps of 2, 2.5, or 3, something is wrong or the grader was hungover...
SOM...beautiful card for your collection. They always seem to be tougher on the big name stars on grading from what I can tell. Here is mine for comparison of grade.
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collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
From your title , and with as much traveling that you do, I thought this thread might have something to do with airplanes.
Very nice card anyway.----- Sonny
<< <i>I thought this thread might have something to do with airplanes. >>
Why, Sonny...I would never go OT!
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It has four slightly soft corners. A very nice looking card but you can not discount the fact that it has modest corner damage across the board.
I say enjoy that bad boy the way it is.
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<< <i>No offense but that looks like a PSA 6 to me.
It has four slightly soft corners. A very nice looking card but you can not discount the fact that it has modest corner damage across the board.
I say enjoy that bad boy the way it is. >>
Sorry but no way those corners look 6ish from the scan. Maybe in person it would be different but that scan looks like a 7.
This is my point of reference. Becuase of technical grading a lot of nice cards are sitting in PSA 6 holders. That card is a great card but it is EX-MT which is still awesome for a card that old.
I really am not sweating what a TPG thinks (other than validating a card's authenticity); this card is the highlight of my 1954 raw set, in which it shall reside.
Besides...though many of you may be correct about the card's potential, my history with "bumps" and regrades is a stunning...0%
I think the Hank has a shot at a .5 or even possibly a full bump. Great looking card!
The bottom line is you have one of the best baseball cards of all time and a PSA 6 is a killer card.
There are modern cards that trade at prices that are drastically higher and it is a joke. That is a piece of American history and the greatest home run hitter of all time.
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
Enjoy that awesome card and forget about the rest.
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Congrats!
<< <i>Gumby I guarentee if you saw the Ric Flair raw you would have said an 8.
The bottom line is you have one of the best baseball cards of all time and a PSA 6 is a killer card.
There are modern cards that trade at prices that are drastically higher and it is a joke. That is a piece of American history and the greatest home run hitter of all time.
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
Enjoy that awesome card and forget about the rest. >>
The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time.
You do know they are humans doing the grading, right?
Do you honestly feel you would be better than someone that is paid to look at sportscards in a professional grading environment for 40 plus hours a week?
edited to add: and back to the original post, that is a great looking card, congratulations SOM
PSA has set it's own standardized grading scale. It is very easy for them to examine a card and measure the centering, study the corners, and look for printing issues. This is not a hard thing to judge.
It costs money to get your cards graded and the results have even greater implications in the resale market. You get your cards graded for value and authenticity. For PSA cards to carry a premium in the marketplace one must place value on their opinion.
Almost every card I see posted on here someone is saying it should bump. I think they should get it right the first time. I don't think that is to much to ask.
Human beings make mistakes but this is not brain surgery. I showed my brothers girflriend a few cards just a couple of weeks ago and told her the things that card grading companies look for. In seconds she was pointing out the flaws.
If a card should bump it should be 5 out of every 2,000 graded. I see subs on here of 50 cards and people think 10 should bump. In realiaty if that is the case then PSA's opinin is worthless. If a card grading company gets it right 80% of the time there is no reason to even get cards graded.
I personally think PSA gets right almost all of the time and therefore geting cards to bump should be an extremely small number.
<< <i>Drewsef,
PSA has set it's own standardized grading scale. It is very easy for them to examine a card and measure the centering, study the corners, and look for printing issues. This is not a hard thing to judge.
It costs money to get your cards graded and the results have even greater implications in the resale market. You get your cards graded for value and authenticity. For PSA cards to carry a premium in the marketplace one must place value on their opinion.
Almost every card I see posted on here someone is saying it should bump. I think they should get it right the first time. I don't think that is to much to ask.
Human beings make mistakes but this is not brain surgery. I showed my brothers girflriend a few cards just a couple of weeks ago and told her the things that card grading companies look for. In seconds she was pointing out the flaws.
If a card should bump it should be 5 out of every 2,000 graded. I see subs on here of 50 cards and people think 10 should bump. In realiaty if that is the case then PSA's opinin is worthless. If a card grading company gets it right 80% of the time there is no reason to even get cards graded.
I personally think PSA gets right almost all of the time and therefore geting cards to bump should be an extremely small number. >>
You failed to answer if you think you can grade better than a professional doing it in a professional environment(something most armchair graders here have no idea that it affects seeing the card in the correct light and conditions greatly) for 40 plus hours a week. It's a simple yes or no question.
All the rest is alot of fluff about how you think things should be, etc... but if you have zero qualification to do an equal job to those professionals, your really just talking out of you know what.
You are paying for an qualified, money-backed opinion with guarantee, if you don't know what the differences are and have a bunch of low grade crap in your collection, it's your fault for not learning more. There are cards that are liners for the grade, and perceived differently.Not every card is a lock for the grade, I hope that you don't think all cards are perceived the exact same way by every single person and should always receive the exact same grade?
If you follow what some of the people here who have absolutely no clue how to grade a card's opinion over what a professional says, you really do believe that wrestling is real.
The Piss on SOM's Parade Award.
Congrats!
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comparing them to wrestling cards made me laugh out loud as did Gumby's comments
<< <i>I forgot PSA has different standards for Baseball cards, Golf cards, Basketball, Three Stooges and yes Wrestling. >>
Damn! So that's why they Killed me on my Mork & Mindy cards.
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<< <i>The bump game really bothers me becuase what is the point of getting cards graded if they are not right the first time. >>
Dpeck, you appear to be new to the grading side of the hobby, so I'll try to be clear.
Grading is a completely subjective aspect of the hobby. One person may see a card as a 6, another may see it as a 7. It's the human element in grading and regardless of the standards that PSA adheres to, there is still room for subjectivity. It is not a mathematical equation...it is an art. It is the nature of the beast in grading and people can either accept it or not. Either way, it's not something that will change.
Lastly, this Aaron card was graded before PSA implemented their .5 point system. It may get a .5 point bump simply for the fact that there was no middle ground between a 6 and a 7 when the card was last sent in for grading.
I agree 100%, I can even see bumps of a full grade from time to time.
Bumps of 2, 2.5, or 3, something is wrong or the grader was hungover...
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