Going BACK TO THE TOP TIL I RECEIVE TRFSTPTCH BAD TRADER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8kobe
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I sent these same words to one of the board members. He agreed with me that I wasn't at fault so I have decided to take it public after waiting many days without even a promise to make the deal correct or how it will be corrected.
Here it is
"I recently did a trade with Trfstptch. It was his unused kobe ecard and a hoops kobe rookie for my jason richardson platinum rookie. We were to send at the same time. He sent about 5 days later. That didn't bother me much. But when I received the kobe ecard had been scratched and been entered so I can't use it. I asked him to trade back because his deal didn't stand up to his part. He responded that it was scratched when he got it and he nor the person before him used it. He said that someone had it before him. So I imed the previous owner and he said that he never scratched it. So I asked him again for a trade back and he said he traded it to someone else without making sure I even received my cards. So I asked for a replacement or cash to get one but did offer me so cards that wouldn't match up to my richardson rookie even with my hoops rookie. He refused both and now he has been ignoring my Pms and my Im's."
I will keep this up until I receive one of the following two.
1. a platinum richardson rookie near the same condition
or 2. cash to replace the rookie.
When I receive these I will return his cards.
Thanks and please remember this while doing trades with him.
Here it is
"I recently did a trade with Trfstptch. It was his unused kobe ecard and a hoops kobe rookie for my jason richardson platinum rookie. We were to send at the same time. He sent about 5 days later. That didn't bother me much. But when I received the kobe ecard had been scratched and been entered so I can't use it. I asked him to trade back because his deal didn't stand up to his part. He responded that it was scratched when he got it and he nor the person before him used it. He said that someone had it before him. So I imed the previous owner and he said that he never scratched it. So I asked him again for a trade back and he said he traded it to someone else without making sure I even received my cards. So I asked for a replacement or cash to get one but did offer me so cards that wouldn't match up to my richardson rookie even with my hoops rookie. He refused both and now he has been ignoring my Pms and my Im's."
I will keep this up until I receive one of the following two.
1. a platinum richardson rookie near the same condition
or 2. cash to replace the rookie.
When I receive these I will return his cards.
Thanks and please remember this while doing trades with him.
Interested in Kobe Bryant, Game Used, Rare Inserts, Rookies, and Autos.
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As for him ignoring your PM's and IM's, no big surprise. This guy is a scammer from the old days of CU. Talk to TopofOhio. TrFstPtch tried to scam him, until Dan called the kid's parents. I'm sure TopofOhio will help you out with any info you need.
Paul
Not getting back with him only makes it worse
Looking for Marino, Ripken Auto's,Gu & Rc's
<< <i>Mike ,I am not taking sides on this but you did ask what you should do on this matter. Now I think you made a bad choice by not getting back with him on the trade .You need to settle the issue with him on this trade asap don't join the long list of bad traders. I have never traded with you but I have talked to you for along time so make good on the trade......................
Not getting back with him only makes it worse >>
It seems he did make attempts to get this straighten out without success:
<< <i>So I asked him again for a trade back and he said he traded it to someone else without making sure I even received my cards. So I asked for a replacement or cash to get one but did offer me so cards that wouldn't match up to my richardson rookie even with my hoops rookie. He refused both and now he has been ignoring my Pms and my Im's. >>
Mike
Hope we can straigten this out
Mike
I am happy that I will be receiving my card back. That is all I wanted in the first place. I have talked to people on your Im name and have asked them to have you get ahold of me. I have given them my email address and told them to have you email me. I have also attempted to contact you thourgh AIM, Email, as well as Pm. Your cards will be sent back as soon as I receive mine. This will been done only to insure that I do receive my cards back. The post will be deleted and I won't say anything futher about this or any of the other problems as long as you don't rip others off, which I have confidence that you won't. I am sorry it had to come to this. I will edit the title to say that you are making the deal fair.
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Thanks,
-Jason
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And i saw my name in there two, are you talking about Jason or jasong(me)?
22 postive feedback on ebay with no negatives
my refs:
Leon, TrFstPtch, woodson24kg, LAdude465(2), Danotorious, KOBEcollector, bradley25
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22 postive feedback on ebay with no negatives
my refs:
Leon, TrFstPtch, woodson24kg, LAdude465(2), Danotorious, KOBEcollector, bradley25
Ryan
<< <i>He sent he just misrepresented his cards. He agreed to return which you can see here. I haven't received them. As soon as I get the cards back I will delete this post. That is all it takes. It only takes one bad trade for him to become a bad trader and it looks like he has had more then one. Anyone have information on topofohio????? >>
If I remember the posts correctly he and Top did a blind trade thing..Topp was to recieve like a $50 Mcguire insert and TR was to get some Bkball RC's...They both sent TR said he got a bunch of low end RC's from Top the highest being $8 or sumpthin' and asked for a trade back or sumpthin''That or TR had'nt sent the Mcguire and wanted to return Tops cards or some deal can't remember but I dont think it was a ripoff situation...
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Ryan
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Some time ago we agreed to a trade. After 2 weeks (or so) of not recieving anything I PM'ed him & he told me he did NOT recieve anything from me either. So I kept PM'ing him for a while but he kept saying he didnt recieve anything. I didnt believe him but there really wasnt anything I could do since both packages "were lost in the mail".
Then "TopOfOhio" made a bad trader post about him & I posted in that saying he scammed me as well. Well, then he finally sent me the cards that he claimed were lost in the mail.
I would NEVER trade with him.
-mik
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TrFstPtch is a GREAT trader, and a nice guy too.
This isn't the first time he has done this as you can read on the other posts!!!! One bad trade made good is one thing as long as they correct it. Three bad trades is another.
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<< <i>This is getting stupid fast. Why don't you solve your problem outside the forum, because for everytime you top this, someone (like me) is going to defend him.
TrFstPtch is a GREAT trader, and a nice guy too. >>
If you think this topic is stupid - don't look at it. It's not like it takes up the whole board or anything so quit your whining.
This whole topic is good as a warning to new members, so they don't "trade" with him.
But you are right about one thing, everytime some one gives evidence that he is a bad trader, fools like your are going to step up for him with lame comments like "He is a great trader" when that clearly isnt the case. Just because he did an X amount of good trades with you & he is your friend dosnt mean he is like that to everyone.
-mik
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thanks,
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If I were to come on here, and just say "Oh, cardnyou's a bad trader" and I got someone else to say it to, would you all sudden;ly add him to your bad traders list?
The bottom is line is this: I know TrFstPtch,a nd I have tarded with TrFstPtch. I don't know 8kobe or Mik from a hole in the wall.
<< <i>8kobe and Mik can claim whatever they want to, but the FACT is we have no reason to believe them except for their word against his. Why is it these guys can just claim Tr's a bad trader, and we all blindly believe it, instead oving a guy with a LOT of good deals and references the benefit of the doubt?
If I were to come on here, and just say "Oh, cardnyou's a bad trader" and I got someone else to say it to, would you all sudden;ly add him to your bad traders list?
The bottom is line is this: I know TrFstPtch,a nd I have tarded with TrFstPtch. I don't know 8kobe or Mik from a hole in the wall. >>
You would be surprised if you knew how many people have complained about TrFstPtch, but I guess that was before your time? Don't act like you know everything about a subject you know absolutely NOTHING about. I'm basing my statements on facts while you are basing them on Guessing & friendship.
And it's no wonder that he didnt scam you when you supposedly are so good friends.
Is he a "GREAT trader" just because he dosnt scam his friend?
-mik
Along with other long time members of this forum having been ripped by him in the past & no reason for the current members making thier claims other than what they are saying is true just adds credence to thier claims.
While his buddies loyalty is touching it just might be time to take off the blinders & look at the whole person.Even Tiger had a bogey yesterday;nobody is perfect!! That & a tiger can't change his stripes;only his screen name!! Our 2 cents.
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Oct/17/2001 4:39 PM
hey man...got the brunell, one question? whats its bv, i cant find it ANYWHERE in beckett...plmk asap
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TrFstPtch
Date Posted: Oct/16/2001 7:35 PM
yeah man its out should be getting today..tomorrow...Thursday? its out man
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Oct/16/2001 6:22 PM
hey man, did u ever send out that brunell...ive been waiting for a very long time
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Oct/03/2001 8:40 PM
i dunno...its hardly worth it..if we did a bigger trade, id just throw in in for kicks...also, did u send??
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TrFstPtch
Date Posted: Oct/03/2001 8:39 PM
i dunno, probaly around $3
book aint out yet, what u want in return?
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Oct/03/2001 6:18 PM
i have that vintage duece u wanted...whats bv, i dont even know? also, did u send the brunell yet
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TrFstPtch
Date Posted: Sep/30/2001 8:45 PM
no prob
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Sep/30/2001 8:23 PM
thanx
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TrFstPtch
Date Posted: Sep/30/2001 8:09 PM
my email:
TrFstPtch@aol.com
Brunell will be out tomorrow
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Sep/30/2001 1:02 PM
hey man...whats your email address? so if people ask for refs, i can give it to em
and....did u send the brunell yet?
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Sep/21/2001 8:38 PM
omg man...when did u notify me? aight, its ok as long as u send tomorrow...btw, please go to my post, its on top, say im a good trader, i need refs for a trade outsid eof here...and also do me another favor, post me as a good trader and ill do the same for you as soon as i recieve from you. np, just wanted to kno what happened
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TrFstPtch
Date Posted: Sep/21/2001 8:35 PM
hey man..I'm senden tomorrow sorry for the inconvienece...I'm sorry...I notified you twice...sorry man! I got your cards....I got my allowence today so I've got some $$.
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SkiVermont3
Date Posted: Sep/21/2001 6:23 PM
sooo...have you got my cards yet...nothing here from you yet, plmk
<< <i>8kobe and Mik can claim whatever they want to, but the FACT is we have no reason to believe them except for their word against his. Why is it these guys can just claim Tr's a bad trader, and we all blindly believe it, instead oving a guy with a LOT of good deals and references the benefit of the doubt?
If I were to come on here, and just say "Oh, cardnyou's a bad trader" and I got someone else to say it to, would you all sudden;ly add him to your bad traders list?
The bottom is line is this: I know TrFstPtch,a nd I have tarded with TrFstPtch. I don't know 8kobe or Mik from a hole in the wall. >>
Ryan, one thing you might want to look at is past complaints about FS. Also the 2 members that are complaining about FS have been here along time and heck of alot longer then you so i think they would know more about FS past then you. Now its nice that you had a good deal with FS but it looks like these guys are getting the shaft. You made your point and its noted that you had a great trade with FS. But its stands to reason that he is not contacting kobe8 and finishing the deal or fixing things.
Your only as good as your last trade. No mater how many good deals you have had it only takes ONE screwup to trash your reputation.
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Owner of the longest actual word in the "One word Post"
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He probly traded a card he ripped from someone ......
Ski the Card Launder'