Wouldn't it be cool if PCGS and/or NGC provided an option to have your coins holdered inside a ring
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Wouldn't it be cool if PCGS and/or NGC provided an option to have your coins holdered not inside an inert holder, but inside a ring of cardboard........impregnated with random amounts of reactive material......like sulfur......
You wouldn't want the level of concentration to be consistent or even applied consistently to the cardboard.....that way these new holders would produce coins in varying configurations with varying levels of color intensity......
Of course you probably wouldn't want to holder a classic rarity in one but think of all the ugly white new silver coins and even the millions of white Morgans that need a nice ring of color applied...and who better to do it then one of the grading services......
....the Toning Replication Service.....
You wouldn't want the level of concentration to be consistent or even applied consistently to the cardboard.....that way these new holders would produce coins in varying configurations with varying levels of color intensity......
Of course you probably wouldn't want to holder a classic rarity in one but think of all the ugly white new silver coins and even the millions of white Morgans that need a nice ring of color applied...and who better to do it then one of the grading services......
....the Toning Replication Service.....
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<< <i>It would be like your coin took mushrooms----------BigE >>
Maybe....I like to think of it as a methodology to imitate the way coins toned that were stored in Wayte Raymond styled holders which actually gave many awesomely "originally" toned coins their awesomenes.....
(And by the way, speaking of mushrooms...do you remember a poster years ago starting a thread entitled "Do you enjoy looking at your coins more when you're high?" That one just killed pretty fast, and of course, justifiably......we're here to be a positive influence on everyone and illegal drugs are not good for you, especially young people and also for old people who are likely to drop a burning roach into the couch.)
<< <i>quite an interesting thought >>
It is, you could include a set of coin world holders for each denom., maybe some bu 90% coins, and treated inserts. Would be like a coin "Chia Pet". Anaconda should patent
<< <i>Not sure if that would work out too well. Maybe Mr Willis or Mr.Hall can chime in here and give you their thoughts on that one. >>
That my friend is simply never going to happen. Smart people know that being quiet leads others to never underestimate their intelligence. That's why I post so often.
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<< <i>quite an interesting thought >>
It is, you could include a set of coin world holders for each denom., maybe some bu 90% coins, and treated inserts. Would be like a coin "Chia Pet". Anaconda should patent
We could engage in a numismatic conspiracy of unequaled proportions......everyone, right now, raise your right hand.....repeat after me.....'I will not tell the SPCC anything about the new cardboard rings inside of PCGS' and NGCs' new holders......'
Ok, it's a go.
Actually, what is to prevent someone from coming up with the Anaconda Professional Coin Toning Kit....they can do all the work and I'll write the disclaimer and legal stuff.
<< <i>Slim chance of doing that and then guaranteeing the coin. Not know what sort of toning would develop, it would be too risky.....and that glass over there....it is half empty......... >>
I wouldn't advocate a toning kit to tone coins with the intention of toning them to try and fool a grading company.....therein the disclaimer and "legal stuff".....
This is still the United States of America, not Cuba......if someone wants to add color to a coin because it makes it prettier in their eyes, there is absolutely nothing and no one that can stop them.
why not??
Could be as simple as cardboard made with a high level of sulfates, and a slightly oversize plastic holder. Mayve a few very small holes around the outside of the cardboard ring that would allow you do dip it in water every so often. That would wet the carboard slightly and let the sulfates interact more.
Why not.?? sounds like a Patent wating to happen.
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<< <i>Adrian, thinking outside the box, You are always doing it. You have a interesting mind set. >>
Thanks...I was born that way; nothing I take credit for.
I would recommend that they date the coins when they holder them in the PCGS Professional Toning Holders ...then in the years to come, the older coins in a PCGS 2012 holder (first generation professionally toned coins) that are 25 years old.....and toning nicely.....would be like a fine whiskey. (Actually whiskies pretty much top out in their late teens....)
And, professional toning would protect the coins....you don't put copper gutters up hoping they stay red. And you don't clean a fine bronze with anything else other than distilled water because you could strip the protective oxidation.
<< <i>Adrian, thinking outside the box, You are always doing it. You have a interesting mind set. >>
Could that be construed as thinking outside the slab or inside the slab?
<< <i>What did you put in the morning coffee to come up with this idea? >>
Nothing.....I am totally drug free. For good or bad, my mind just wanders around most of the time.
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<< <i>No, it would certainly have to be totally outside the grading of coins....they just have all the equipment and the money to make it happen. You pay them to holder your coins "in need" of toning and you roll your dice and you take your chances.
I would recommend that they date the coins when they holder them in the PCGS Professional Toning Holders ...then in the years to come, the older coins in a PCGS 2012 holder (first generation professionally toned coins) that are 25 years old.....and toning nicely.....would be like a fine whiskey. (Actually whiskies pretty much top out in their late teens....)
And, professional toning would protect the coins....you don't put copper gutters up hoping they stay red. And you don't clean a fine bronze with anything else other than distilled water because you could strip the protective oxidation. >>
I'm not sure this will fly unless the nicely toned coins are given an automatic pass for NT when it comes to get them graded. Of course, the fact that coins have been toned in the holder already makes this a bit problematic.
Put a mint fresh ms69 or ms70 into the enhanced holder
Have a picture done by the slabbing company
Wait a few years
And you get a nicely toned coin you can call NT
????
<< <i>Ponder this
Put a mint fresh ms69 or ms70 into the enhanced holder
Have a picture done by the slabbing company
Wait a few years
And you get a nicely toned coin you can call NT
???? >>
Calling a coin NT doesn't make it NT. Don't forget that Adrian's proposal involves impregnating the cardboard with sulfur and other chemicals to induce toning which sure sounds like ATing to me.
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It is not something I would consider.