$1 1859 PF67*

rwyarmch

I wonder if someone can tell me whether this dollar actually looks like the Heritage image linked below.
Enclosed is a prior image for comparison. I'm just hoping it hasn't been jazzed up in some way.

After residing in the Norweb collection for 80 years and another 20 years in mine, this coin is up for sale
for the third time in a year! Mark Borckardt's video suggests it "will be truly appreciated by the advanced
collector" (for months to come I suppose). It's now just from "The Bay State Collection". Oh, well.


Heritage Lot 1153

Bayard1908

Toning looks exactly the same to me.

stinkinlincoln

Nice coin. I have a question, why is there no mention of the Norweb pedigree?

80years in one collection and then 20 in yours... Id think a pedigree like that could only help a coins sale.

MrEureka

It's now just from "The Bay State Collection". Oh, well.

All you have to do to get the provenance in the online catalog is ask, which I just did.

shottaker

The first pics are a lil lighter for some reason look like scans. The slab photos have the same color though so it hasnt been messed with. I think they took a high resolution scan and the toning lightened. Its not an intentional thing and happens with proofs due to the reflective surfaces.

MikeInFL

<< <i>I wonder if someone can tell me whether this dollar actually looks like the Heritage image linked below.
Enclosed is a prior image for comparison. I'm just hoping it hasn't been jazzed up in some way. >>



Owning a few coins that are toned like this, I can attest to the fact that the way they show up in photos is highly dependant on how the coin is lit and positioned relative to the camera. In short, I see nothing to suggest the coin or photo has been "jazzed up".

Sunnywood

Proof seated dollars have become really annoying to collect because they all got cracked out and anything with attractive toning and decent quality got very upgraded at NGC. The crackout guys then want to hide the pedigree, because they don't want you to know that your NGC 67 was once a 65, etc. NGC was very generous with this series, handing out many "super-grades" of 66 and above, to coins that are attractive but that do not stand up to close technical examination under a loupe. The crackout guys therefore migrated all the coins over to NGC holders, and the prices went up along with the inflated slab grades. I find the whole game really annoying.

I haven't seen this specific 1859 for a number of years, so I'm not commenting specifically on this coin. I collected this series for a number of years, but gave it up around 2002 or 2003.

You MUST see these coins in hand. Some are dark, and only show the colors "at the right angle." Others are dusky brown & grey, but similarly light up at the correct viewing angle. Still others have obvious vivd bright colorful toning. (Some might argue that the vivid coins exhibit secondary toning on dipped surfaces, while the darker or duskier coins are more original, but it depends on the specific coin.) You must also examine the surfaces with a loupe, and determine the correct technical grade yourself, particularly for anything graded 65 and up by NGC.

Best,
Sunnywood