I could only find 3 references to "disme" in the 2008 red book. Maybe it's in the newer version b/c none of the references indicate pronunciation. Dictionary.com pronounces it Dime too, with the long I sound. Atlhough it is Anglo-French in origin so the long E pronunciation of the 'i' may also be acceptable.
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I found a Link to America in So Many Words by Davd Barnhart & Allan Metcalf. Evidently, "deem" was the suggested pronunciation of T.Jefferson but was later anglicized and pronounced "dime" as in "time"
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It was (and is) a French word and should be pronounced in the French fashion, as "deem." However, it is quite common for us numizzmatists to (deliberately) mispronounce it as "dizz-mee," because it is immediately recognizable to everyone (whereas saying "deem" would probably get you nothing but a perplexed look from your conversation partner).
<< <i>I've owned half a dozen of em and I call em "Diz-Mee's ". I think the whoever owns em can call em whatever he wants >>
I see your and I raise you a !
Since this is a serious Numismatic bulletin board as confirmed by recent CU official policy postings, then the folks who surf here ought to know the real numismatic story for Disme. It is currently pronounced "Dime", acceptable alternative due to the Anglo-French root is "deem". "Diz-mee" is...well rather redneck and inappropriate for a serious numismatic website if you wil.
Notice the symbol is like a pass here. It's OK to be facetious as long as you post the wink symbol. Interesingly I've posted with a sense of levity on a number of "numismatic" trheads here and I've been scoriated by the original posters and others for not being serious enough.
Diz-mee is a redneck pronunciation and non-numismatic. I'd love to turn this thread "political" but if I do CU will cancel my credentials.
Sometimes, the hypocrisy is unbearable. I enjoy the hobby and I respect the OP's ?? If y'all want a coin-only forum then practice what you preach. "Diz-mee" is an absolutely unacceptable pronunciation of the term, numizmatically speaking, of course!
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<< <i>Dieclash, are you sure you were "scoriated"? >>
Touché!
Although "reduced to 'rubble' or 'waste'" is the legitimate translation my spelling may be off. Perchance I meant "Excoriate"
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All other coins are either cents, dollars, or multiples or fractions thereof. The half dime is long gone. The denomination on the nickel is "five cents", and even the twenty cent piece was inscribed "twenty cents", not "two dimes".
Why not just change the declared value on the dime to "ten cents"?
<< <i>What's the reason for having a "dime" anyway?................................. >>
FYI ................................. "Half Dimes" was the term they used back then, today we use the term "nickle" (as you stated). Also, dimes would be considered fractional as well as they make up 1/10th of a dollar (10%), so yes, we do need dimes to calculate todays currency and trade markets. You make a noteworthy point though as other members here have eluded to the eradication of certain coin denominations as well (ex. the penny was deemed unnecessary by Rick Snow (a noteworthy and very respectable cent dealer)! As is, in the future I'm sure we will eventually ween ourselves off of coin denominations and price everything in dollar units, but until then we will just have to deal with the "19.99" sale prices".
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The word is French in origin and consequently the way it should be pronounced is "deem". Plenty of times I have heard it pronounced "diz-mee" and it sounds annoyingly wrong. An incorrect pronunciation of the term is akin to hearing someone pronounce the word "fajita" as "fa-gee-ta" or "Reykjavik" as "Rik-ja-vik".
I think member "DieClash" summed it up well in his response.
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Americans have a tendency to pronounce words [either thru ignorance or otherwise] the way they are spelled. Of course the travesty that we call English doesn't help much in that regard.
<< <i>Americans have a tendency to pronounce words [either thru ignorance or otherwise] the way they are spelled. Of course the travesty that we call English doesn't help much in that regard. >>
I'm as ignorant as most, and even I know it is meant to be pronounced "deem." -Preussen
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<< <i>Well at least now if I ever have one I will know how to pronounce it.
Mike >>
Yepper, since I don't collect them or otherwise get involved with them I always sorta just glossed over any mention of them. Next time I run across them at least I'll know a little bit more about them. Lotta thems in that thar statement.
well, if you check Dictionary.com there's an "Audio" button you can click on for pronunciation help. it is pronounced "DIME" just like the present day coin we all know and love, so that renders all the French-Redbook and other connections as meaningless. of course you can pronounce it any way you choose, you'd just be wrong.
<< <i>well, if you check Dictionary.com there's an "Audio" button you can click on for pronunciation help. it is pronounced "DIME" just like the present day coin we all know and love, so that renders all the French-Redbook and other connections as meaningless. of course you can pronounce it any way you choose, you'd just be wrong. >>
I'm with the crowd who pronounces it correctly..."deem"
anything else is actually incorrect, although possibly 'accepted'.
Spelling "collectable" is accepted although not correct. "Collectible" is correct. Point is, there are a lot of variants that are accepted yet not necessarily proper.
Chuck, you might use the French pronunciation if you were speaking French in France, but you're speaking English in America. so long as we all extol the virtues of the American dictionary in it's leading form by Webster, there can be little arguement about the correct pronunciation. like i said, though, you can say it however you want, you can even say it "Quarter" as long as you don't mind it when people look at you strange.
so, to tun things around on you, dime is correct and deem is acceptable just like shoppe can be pronounced shop-ee if you don't mind sounding........................ignorant.
<< <i>"Dizzime." Or so Snoop Dogg would say, I guess. >>
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<< <i>"Dime"
Seriously? I've heard JP Martin say "diz-mee," but maybe he was just fooling around.
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No. Neither. It is deem. Rhymes with 'team' or 'seem'. I despise the all too common "diz-mee".
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<< <i>According to the Redbook, it is deem.
-Paul >>
I could only find 3 references to "disme" in the 2008 red book. Maybe it's in the newer version b/c none of the references indicate pronunciation. Dictionary.com pronounces it Dime too, with the long I sound. Atlhough it is Anglo-French in origin so the long E pronunciation of the 'i' may also be acceptable.
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?disme001.wav=disme
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That's one of the few headscratchers I've actually been pronouncing correctly.
(I used to use "DIZ-mee" for years, though, before I knew better.)
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I had the same thought earlier, and I think I would agree.
<< <i>I've owned half a dozen of em and I call em "Diz-Mee's ". I think the whoever owns em can call em whatever he wants
I see your
Since this is a serious Numismatic bulletin board as confirmed by recent CU official policy postings, then the folks who surf here ought to know the real numismatic story for Disme. It is currently pronounced "Dime", acceptable alternative due to the Anglo-French root is "deem". "Diz-mee" is...well rather redneck and inappropriate for a serious numismatic website if you wil.
Notice the
Diz-mee is a redneck pronunciation and non-numismatic. I'd love to turn this thread "political" but if I do CU will cancel my credentials.
Sometimes, the hypocrisy is unbearable. I enjoy the hobby and I respect the OP's ?? If y'all want a coin-only forum then practice what you preach. "Diz-mee" is an absolutely unacceptable pronunciation of the term, numizmatically speaking, of course!
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<< <i>According to the Redbook, it is deem.
-Paul >>
So WTH is colonel pronounced kernel?
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<< <i>Wow. I'm off by a mile! >>
I was too- I always went with "disum".
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<< <i>"Dizzime." Or so Snoop Dogg would say, I guess. >>
Exactly works best in a sentence... "You Disme again and I'll Pimp Slap You" now wasn't that simple
<< <i>Dieclash, are you sure you were "scoriated"?
Touché!
Although "reduced to 'rubble' or 'waste'" is the legitimate translation my spelling may be off. Perchance I meant "Excoriate"
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although I do like diz-mee my self
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I am of Jamaican decent and in our "patois" (language) we say "deem" as well. We use the term to represent the word "dime".
example: We say - "gimme adeem"
Translation - "give me a dime"
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All other coins are either cents, dollars, or multiples or fractions thereof. The half dime is long gone. The denomination on the nickel is "five cents", and even the twenty cent piece was inscribed "twenty cents", not "two dimes".
Why not just change the declared value on the dime to "ten cents"?
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<< <i>What's the reason for having a "dime" anyway?................................. >>
FYI ................................. "Half Dimes" was the term they used back then, today we use the term "nickle" (as you stated). Also, dimes would be considered fractional as well as they make up 1/10th of a dollar (10%), so yes, we do need dimes to calculate todays currency and trade markets. You make a noteworthy point though as other members here have eluded to the eradication of certain coin denominations as well (ex. the penny was deemed unnecessary by Rick Snow (a noteworthy and very respectable cent dealer)! As is, in the future I'm sure we will eventually ween ourselves off of coin denominations and price everything in dollar units, but until then we will just have to deal with the "19.99" sale prices".
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I think member "DieClash" summed it up well in his response.
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<< <i>Americans have a tendency to pronounce words [either thru ignorance or otherwise] the way they are spelled. Of course the travesty that we call English doesn't help much in that regard. >>
I'm as ignorant as most, and even I know it is meant to be pronounced "deem."
Mike
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<< <i>Well at least now if I ever have one I will know how to pronounce it.
Mike >>
Yepper, since I don't collect them or otherwise get involved with them I always sorta just glossed over any mention of them. Next time I run across them at least I'll know a little bit more about them. Lotta thems in that thar statement.
<< <i>"Dime" the S is silent as in Aisle.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?disme001.wav=disme >>
wait hold on, the S is silent in "aisle"?
DOH no wonder I have so much trouble with the stewardess last time I flew.
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The same way you say it
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<< <i>well, if you check Dictionary.com there's an "Audio" button you can click on for pronunciation help. it is pronounced "DIME" just like the present day coin we all know and love, so that renders all the French-Redbook and other connections as meaningless. of course you can pronounce it any way you choose, you'd just be wrong. >>
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anything else is actually incorrect, although possibly 'accepted'.
Spelling "collectable" is accepted although not correct. "Collectible" is correct. Point is, there are a lot of variants that are accepted yet not necessarily proper.
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so, to tun things around on you, dime is correct and deem is acceptable just like shoppe can be pronounced shop-ee if you don't mind sounding........................ignorant.
<< <i>"Dizzime." Or so Snoop Dogg would say, I guess. >>
.......snoop dogg?......................NOW THERE'S A RELIABLE SOURCE!!!