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Ouch.

(Both for him and for all of us that used a 1st round pick to take him.)

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  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Am sure it's a move to be careful. If this was a team with any talent, Brady would still be out there. >>



    I'm not so sure about that. I've been wrong before though. Looked like an MCL injury to me.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didnt see it. Im horrified right now too, the way we lie about our injury report the only way we will no for sure is two ways..

    1-He will play next week but be be doubtfull on the injury report.
    2-he will be out for an extended period of time and they will wait until the last second to announce it.

    Im keeping my fingers crossed.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Pats season is over.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pats season is over. >>



    Pats 1-0
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    This will be the LAST time I even remotely acknowledge any welchers/dirtbags that accuse GOOD people of racial pm's

    Sincerely,
    your a loser.



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  • Yahoo sports says Brady out for 08 with ligament damage. That is a huge blow for a team that should have been right back in the Super Bowl mix.
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  • << <i>Ouch.

    (Both for him and for all of us that used a 1st round pick to take him.) >>




    I only took him in my big pay league (Doh!). Looks like I lose $100 this week by 2 pts.
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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Sources: Brady out for '08

    Pats QB Tom Brady will be sidelined with ligament damage in his left knee.

    Sources: Brady done with severe knee injury



    New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is expected to miss the rest of the 2008 season with what two sources described as a severe injury to his left knee, suffered in the first quarter of the Pats’ 17-10 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs at Gillette Stadium Sunday.
    While New England coach Bill Belichick said in his postgame press conference that he had no update on the status of Brady’s injury, a source close to the quarterback indicated it involved serious damage to the knee. That could include a torn anterior cruciate ligament and perhaps other ligament and cartilage damage.
    “It’s bad,” a team source said. “We’re going to have to play without him.”
    Brady was hurt as he stepped up in the pocket to make a throw to wideout Randy Moss. Chiefs safetyBernard Pollard, who was on the ground, lunged forward and struck Brady’s leg, which buckled as he released the ball.
    Brady was helped off the field and was later led down a staircase by team officials, presumably to undergo tests.
    Fourth-year quarterback Matt Cassel, who had thrown just 39 passes in his career before Sunday, replaced Brady and completed 13 of 18 passes for 152 yards and a touchdown. Cassel, who backed up Carson Palmerand Matt Leinart at USC, hasn’t been a starting quarterback since high school. He won a competition withMatt Gutierrez during the preseason to retain the job as Brady’s primary backup.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I have no ill feelings against Perkdog, I know what he is feeling right now, Patsies now have no hope of winning another ring,perhaps
    for a very very long time and the Red Sox are all but out. Made worse by the Rays slim payroll. At least Pappy Ortiz will sleep well
    at night...you know what all that money and all.

    Kevin


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    I find it incredibly curious that for someone who claims to despise stalin as you say you do, you bite his style ALL THE TIME. >>



    So does this mean that if you despise someone, you can not talk with him image

    Ya see, I love talking to malignant narcissistic psychiopaths image
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chris Simms coming in for a tryout - can Culpepper be far behind?
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  • They better get somebody in there quick, i have Moss on 1 of my fantasy teams
  • get Dante! he can re-team with moss.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>I have no ill feelings against Perkdog, I know what he is feeling right now, Patsies now have no hope of winning another ring,perhaps
    for a very very long time and the Red Sox are all but out. Made worse by the Rays slim payroll. At least Pappy Ortiz will sleep well
    at night...you know what all that money and all.

    Kevin >>



    You know, sometimes you type out some of the most inane crap I have ever seen on this forum. Maybe any forum, for that matter.

    Red Sox all but out? You actually watch any baseball? It's week 1, and while losing Brady is awful, to say they have no hope isn't accurate.

    Your comment about Ortiz - even my JS to English dictionary can't help me figure that one out.
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  • GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    Dante Culpepper coming out of retirement to take over for Brady - and team up with Moss again!

    Ok....















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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have no ill feelings against Perkdog, I know what he is feeling right now, Patsies now have no hope of winning another ring,perhaps
    for a very very long time and the Red Sox are all but out. Made worse by the Rays slim payroll. At least Pappy Ortiz will sleep well
    at night...you know what all that money and all.

    Kevin >>



    You know, sometimes you type out some of the most inane crap I have ever seen on this forum. Maybe any forum, for that matter.

    Red Sox all but out? You actually watch any baseball? It's week 1, and while losing Brady is awful, to say they have no hope isn't accurate.

    Your comment about Ortiz - even my JS to English dictionary can't help me figure that one out. >>



    no sense even addressing his comments, really. Never argue with someone lacking in faculties, it is a waste of time
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I wonder if he not knowing in advance what the defense was doing contributed to this?

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Sox are certainly not out of anything. That post was just stupid. BUT, with that said, the Sox are not going anywhere. Sox pitching is way too suspect to survive a post season. This is a familiar song is it not? Too bad its on the Sox now image

    Sorry to muck up the Brady thread with baseball drivel. BUT it is September ya know image

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Sox are certainly not out of anything. That post was just stupid. BUT, with that said, the Sox are not going anywhere. Sox pitching is way too suspect to survive a post season. This is a familiar song is it not? Too bad its on the Sox now image

    Sorry to muck up the Brady thread with baseball drivel. BUT it is September ya know image >>



    I don't know about the Sox pitching being suspect. I'd agree that the bullpen is suspect (hell, suspect means there is some doubt...let's just say the Sox bullpen sux). Anyway, Lester and Beckett are an excellent pair of starters for postseason success. It typically takes just two starters who are on their A game to win in the postseason, so I think the Sox still have a chance. Trust me, as a lifelong Sox fan I am hypercritical of the team (you don't want to watch a game with me in the room), but I do think a healthy Beckett and health Lester can take this team deep into the postseason.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Absolutely - and what team (maybe the Angels?) really does have great starting pitching anyway? I'd be happy with Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, and Byrd going into the playoffs. The bullpen may be weak, but Papelbon waits at the end of it. How bad can that be?
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  • It's unfortunate for Brady and the Pats. It seemed like something that could never happen.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Absolutely - and what team (maybe the Angels?) really does have great starting pitching anyway? I'd be happy with Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, and Byrd going into the playoffs. The bullpen may be weak, but Papelbon waits at the end of it. How bad can that be? >>



    Milwaukee has Sabbathia and Sheets, you already mentioned the Angels, the Rays starters and bullpen have been solid all year, and if Zambrano is healthy, the Cubs qualify for this discussion.

    I'd leave Timlin off the playoff roster if I were Francona. Wakefield will be the innings-eater if needed in the post season
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Chris Simms coming in for a tryout - can Culpepper be far behind? >>



    Whoever they get won't be coming in to start. They don't know the plays and won't learn them overnight. The Pats will be stuck with Cassle(whatever his name is) because he knows the system and really is the best option as of now.

    Simms may be a decent option being that he has more of an upside to Culpepper who most likely wouldn't come anyway because he wouldn't want to be a backup
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>
    This will be the LAST time I even remotely acknowledge any welchers/dirtbags that accuse GOOD people of racial pm's

    Sincerely,
    your a loser.

    Thanks >>



    Oh my, the irony of calling someone a 'loser' then spelling 'you're' 'your' is beyond words...and I find it incredibly curious that for someone who claims to despise stalin as you say you do, you bite his style ALL THE TIME. >>



    What I find incredibly curious is what you might have done with yourself over the past few months being away from your "home away from home" here.

    And are we firing out another volley of 6th grade type insults via pm in our short return to the ring this time as well?

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be out for the season.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Could be out for the season. >>



    He IS out for the season image
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, here is Cassel's chance to be "Brady II" !! NOT! image

    So which QB reject will lead the Pats to a 10-6 season this year?

    Chris Simms? Daunte Culpepper? Drew Bledsoe? image


  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, here is Cassel's chance to be "Brady II" !! NOT! image

    So which QB reject will lead the Pats to a 10-6 season this year?

    Chris Simms? Daunte Culpepper? Drew Bledsoe? image >>



    None of the above. Cassel will play the whole season as the starter. The offense will adjust to him and they'll be on the edge of the playoffs.
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, here is Cassel's chance to be "Brady II" !! NOT! image

    So which QB reject will lead the Pats to a 10-6 season this year?

    Chris Simms? Daunte Culpepper? Drew Bledsoe? image >>



    None of the above. Cassel will play the whole season as the starter. The offense will adjust to him and they'll be on the edge of the playoffs. >>



    You are probably right, but they still may sign a veteran reject as backup.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I wonder how many people out there in fantasy football land picked Brady/Moss one two in their drafts?
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, here is Cassel's chance to be "Brady II" !! NOT! image

    So which QB reject will lead the Pats to a 10-6 season this year?

    Chris Simms? Daunte Culpepper? Drew Bledsoe? image >>



    10-6 would be a great year if they can pull that off without Brady
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,453 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well looks like sellers and some buyers think Cassel is the next Brady. I saw a BIN go for $500.00. Couldn't give his cards away Saturday and now everyone is looking to try to cash in on Bradys injury. I think I'll pass. Maybe a big mistake but I don't think we are looking at the next MVP.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I heard the news today and Im seriously upset but I will stand by my team through thick and thin. Lets see if Bill can work some magic.

    They kept Cassell for a reason so they must see something in him that they feel can work, EVERYONE on O is going to have to step up big time.

    Either way I cant complain or whine about a thing, this stuff does happen unfortunately. I dont think for a second that the hit was intentionally done to hurt him BTW, it might be a long season but Im proud to be a Pats fan.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Im proud to be a Pats fan. >>



    I jumped off the bandwagon when they started Hugh Millen, Perk. image It's been a long 15 years for me




    Just kidding of course. I feel like this injury is taking 5 months of my life away. At least the Sox are coming together. 10 months, one week till training camp!
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Im proud to be a Pats fan. >>



    I jumped off the bandwagon when they started Hugh Millen, Perk. image It's been a long 15 years for me




    Just kidding of course. I feel like this injury is taking 5 months of my life away. At least the Sox are coming together. 10 months, one week till training camp! >>



    Yea its a tough pill to swallow, personally I look forward to the Pats just as much as I do the Sox so it definately puts a damper on things.

    Hugh Millen huh? LOL We have certainly paid our dues! I llok back at that miracle '85 season when we beat the fish that year only to get crushed by the mighty Bears that year and then some very long seasons after that until 2001, since then we have been so fortunate to have things go the way they did it makes it a tiny bit easier but tell ya what though- I wanted another crack at the Super Bowl after last year but for now Im hoping for the division to start with, and I still like our chances!
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭


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    Hugh Millen huh? LOL We have certainly paid our dues! I look back at that miracle '85 season when we beat the fish that year only to get crushed by the mighty Bears that year and then some very long seasons after that until 2001, since then we have been so fortunate to have things go the way they did it makes it a tiny bit easier but tell ya what though- I wanted another crack at the Super Bowl after last year but for now Im hoping for the division to start with, and I still like our chances! >>



    Just had that same conversation with my brother. We've been really fortunate. I also like their chances to win the division. They still have a ton of weapons and Welker is a perfect receiver in the dink and dunk they're going to have to employ for the next 4-5 games. Maroney will have to get more carries earlier than usual, but Sammy Morris looked pretty darn good. So I feel ok about having a team to root for but I certainly don't think you can win a Super Bowl with Matt Cassel. They guy hasn't started a game since High School. At least when Brady came out of obscurity he had played in pressure situations in college.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed about Cassell but the fact that he has been on the sidelines watching and learning for three years has me thinking he will do ok, like I said The Pats see something in him that they like and keep him, personally I think making the Pats roster under Bills close scrutiny is not the easiest thing to do so he must be doing something right because if they thought otherwise he would have been long gone.


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  • The Patriots will be in the mix all year. There is no way you can replace what Tom Brady brings to the team but the roster is full of winners who check their egos at the door & flat out know how to get it done. Chances are they won't win the Super Bowl but they will be in the playoffs...
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,659 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Patriots will be in the mix all year. There is no way you can replace what Tom Brady brings to the team but the roster is full of winners who check their egos at the door & flat out know how to get it done. Chances are they won't win the Super Bowl but they will be in the playoffs... >>




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  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The Patriots will be in the mix all year. There is no way you can replace what Tom Brady brings to the team but the roster is full of winners who check their egos at the door & flat out know how to get it done. Chances are they won't win the Super Bowl but they will be in the playoffs... >>




    I like this guy! image >>



    Of course you do Paul. You know why? He is a Cowboys fan. They are all good guys. Look at you.

    You liked the Cowboys when you were a kid and you're a great guy. But, you were wooed away by the darkside. Now is the time for you to return. Brady is out but Romo is still there!

    Come back Paul!

    PAUL, I AM YOUR FATHER!

    :Breathes heavily:

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's simple really - when a key player such as a starting quarterback goes down, the adrenaline kicks in and the other players step it up in that game and often win or at least do better than normal. This may and usually does occur for the next game or a few games after that...but that adrenaline wears off and then it gets back to the basic fact of a lesser talented 2nd string quarterback in there.

    The Patriots are going to have a very hard time making the playoffs - very hard.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's simple really - when a key player such as a starting quarterback goes down, the adrenaline kicks in and the other players step it up in that game and often win or at least do better than normal. This may and usually does occur for the next game or a few games after that...but that adrenaline wears off and then it gets back to the basic fact of a lesser talented 2nd string quarterback in there.

    The Patriots are going to have a very hard time making the playoffs - very hard. >>



    I agree to a point. The Pats are still very talented. That will show in the couple maybe few coming weeks as stevek alluded to especially in a weak divison. BUT, and I mean BUT reality will set in for the Pats. You DO NOT in the NFL go on with business as usual when of all players, your starting HALL OF FAME quaterback goes down for the season.

    I respect the rallying cry and support of Pats faithfuls. If I may compare this to baseball for a second.

    A championship baseball ball club ALWAYS has at the minimum TWO guys and most of the time THREE guys to rely on to start a game. THEN, you MUST have AT LEAST two guys in the bullpen to rely on. In football? Thats right ....... just ONE quaterback ( more important then todays starting pitcher) in most cases is what it will take. Very few teams in the NFL have ever gone on to realize pre season expectations when a guy like Tom Brady goes down. The 1990 Giants did it with Jeff Hostetler but that was after Phil Simms started them off 11-3 .....

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  • Statistically they don't look good.

    Only 4 teams in Superbowl history has ever loss the SB and made it back (Cowboys, Miami, Denver, Buffalo) - so I would say no, they will not make it the SB, playoffs maybe.

    The question is what will the superstars (like Moss, etc) do when their production goes down?
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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's simple really - when a key player such as a starting quarterback goes down, the adrenaline kicks in and the other players step it up in that game and often win or at least do better than normal. This may and usually does occur for the next game or a few games after that...but that adrenaline wears off and then it gets back to the basic fact of a lesser talented 2nd string quarterback in there.

    The Patriots are going to have a very hard time making the playoffs - very hard. >>



    I agree to a point. The Pats are still very talented. That will show in the couple maybe few coming weeks as stevek alluded to especially in a weak divison. BUT, and I mean BUT reality will set in for the Pats. You DO NOT in the NFL go on with business as usual when of all players, your starting HALL OF FAME quaterback goes down for the season.

    I respect the rallying cry and support of Pats faithfuls. If I may compare this to baseball for a second.

    A championship baseball ball club ALWAYS has at the minimum TWO guys and most of the time THREE guys to rely on to start a game. THEN, you MUST have AT LEAST two guys in the bullpen to rely on. In football? Thats right ....... just ONE quaterback ( more important then todays starting pitcher) in most cases is what it will take. Very few teams in the NFL have ever gone on to realize pre season expectations when a guy like Tom Brady goes down. The 1990 Giants did it with Jeff Hostetler but that was after Phil Simms started them off 11-3 ..... >>




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  • Even without Brady, they should still win the division. The AFC East is SOFT.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Has anyone ever seen storm888 and Dan in a room at the same time? >>



    I have to say, I would be asking the same question! image WOW image

    Maybe I sleepwalk to the computer at night!

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