Let's play the "Grade Me" game. Card is back! Scan added

DavidPuddy

Just wanted to get opinions of the Grade of this Simmons. I think it can pull an 8.5. What do you guys think?

DavidPuddy

Now that I look at it on the screen,,
Do you think it's trimmed? I'll be pissed if it's trimmed.

Brian48

I don't think the left upper and lower corners will get you a 9, but it's definitely much better looking that that 8.5 Foster rookie in the other post. If this doesn't score a 8.5, I'd like to know the reasons why.

nam812

PSA 8 every day of the week no matter which dunski at PSA is grading it, and possibly a 9 if the right grader is holding it.

Edited to add: Only if the red line under his catcher's mitt isnt a pen mark.

StanTheManMusial

Idono, man.. It has it's share of white on those edges, couple of less than sharp corners from what I can tell, along with the print dot, and the red mark by his mitt.

CDsNuts

Should be an 8.5, but they're being pretty conservative in handing out the .5 grades.

DataDriven05

What's the vertical little red line by Simmons' glove?

The centering looks good all around, only a slight tilt in the pic. For the issue, top two corners are ok, only the bottom left looks a little touched up. Hardly any border chipping at all.

It's a nice card, depends on what that vertical line is.

digicat

Looks like an 8.5 candidate to me.

DavidPuddy

I got my loupe out and still can't tell what the red line is. I think it's stray print, but seems like a weird place for it.

StanTheManMusial

After seeing the 71' Foster, this card may very well receive an 8.5. But...... that does not mean it's truly worthy of the grade, in my opinion. I see nothing but another downfall in the grading business with this .5 system. BGS has almost ruined themselves with their grading tactics. GAI has done such for sure. I hope PSA does not do the same with this whole .5 scale fiasco. I have always stuck by the belief that you buy the card in the holder, not the grade on the outside.

DataDriven05

There is a PSA 8 available on EBay right now. The scan is a little blurry, but when you download the pic and blow it up it looks pretty clean - really can't tell about the corners though. I think the cards are equiv.

71 Simmons

I would say this would be an 8, if not 8PD. I am not sure how the print defect will affect you, but if 8.5 is supposed to be the 'perfect 8' then I would say this would fall short.

Then again if you look at the 71 Foster RC in another thread that got an 8.5, you have to wonder.

chaz43

PSA 8. chaz

bluemarlin

Looks like an 8,Only prob is that red mark people have mentioned.

Good luck

onlyanumber

<< <i>PSA 8 every day of the week no matter which dunski at PSA is grading it, and possibly a 9 if the right grader is holding it.

Edited to add: Only if the red line under his catcher's mitt isnt a pen mark. >>




I'll second this to a T...

123Slider

<< <i>Looks like an 8,Only prob is that red mark people have mentioned.

Good luck >>



I think that is where the trimmer marked the card's centerline to ensure he was accurate. (hopefully joking)

fandango

PSA 7 due to print defect

BigDaddyBowman

Bottom right edge looks trimmed to me...hope for your sake its not.

julen23

the answer my friend,
is blowin' in the wind.

71s are a dice roll, i dont find red mark offensive, so i say psa 9!

J

carew4me

DavidPuddy

I took a gamble on card and bought it raw on ebay. I thought it looked like a 9 on the screen, but of course when it arrived it looked more like an 8. I paid $30 for the raw card. The gamble probably won't pay off.
Here's the 8 that I own. I think I paid $22 for it on ebay. It's a very nice card, but I really want one in a 9 holder. GD set registry!
Sorry about the blurry scan. My scanner just can't handle any depth.

cravetopps

that mark is very troubling. If it isn't from a pen (MK), then it is a PD IMO. Without the mark, this card would have a legitimate shot at a 9 so I always ask myself why it isn't holdered already.

DavidPuddy

Well, that's what I always ask myself, but the seller said that it was from a set break. He did have every single card from the 71 set up for sale, so I figured he was not cherry picking the cards. Who knows? Maybe he was legit. Most of the rest of the set looked Primo as well.
The mark does not look like a normal pen mark under loupe, but it could be some sort of marker.

julen23

what % of raw card/set sellers on e-bay are accurate in the description of the condition of their cards? either intentionally or unintentionally IMHO they are usually off. off in over not under grading their -ish.

the true beauty of grading system is that it eliminates doubt, especially w/ .5 system.


for instance:

storm888

Red mark, not good.

If you have a CLEAN Post-It, you can place the
sticky part on the red-mark. Leave it for a few
minutes. If a faint trace of the mark does NOT
show on the removed PI, the mark is likely not
a pen. (It looks like a Pentell or a uniball marker.)

A fresh PI will not leave any residue on the card.
I do it on expensive stamps, often.

DavidPuddy

Well I got my 12 Free grades back from PSA today, and I guess you could say this one made me do a little dance
The red mark made me worry, but I guess the grader didn't think much of it.
With this card I'm now #1 on the Ted Simmons Master Set!

Now if I could only find a 71 OPC psa 9,,,,,,,

WinPitcher

Nice!

Steve

CDsNuts

Giddyup. Thought that bottom corner would keep it from a 9, but the overall sharpness and eye appeal was probably strong enough that the grader thought otherwise.

8irvin8

Very Nice

nam812

I'm gonna beat Bosox1976 to the punch and say Yahtzee!!

I know you're keeping it, but just in case, the last PSA 9 sold for $159 a little over a year ago.

Kurtman9

Congrats! That is a killer looking card, red mark or not.

nam812

Was it from the seller named 71Toppsman?

DavidPuddy

Nam,

I had to search my feedback to find it Seller: zorbaca ( 2203
I do remember being super ticked that it arrived 'Postage due', and only in a card saver for protection.

I was so f in mad.

Feedback I left for him
"Arrived Postage Due! Are you serious? 30+ for card only cardsaver for protection"