This is how signature cut cards should look!

HockeyAutoCollector · June 9, 2007 11:11AM

As many of you know, Garret (Knuckles) is working on a pretty big collection of signature cut cards for me. He is truely a master at what he does. Below you will see what can be done with some of the crap these card companies put out when some time is spent designing an appealing product. Thanks for all your hard work Garret.

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mikeschmidt · June 9, 2007 11:16AM

Knuckles 1
Card Companies 0

stown · June 9, 2007 11:19AM

knuckles is the man. Excellent job, once again

baseballfanatic · June 9, 2007 11:20AM

Damn thats nice....

DaBigHurt · June 9, 2007 11:24AM

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Knuckles = Da man!

storm888 · June 9, 2007 11:55AM

Fantastic !!!!!

theczar · June 9, 2007 12:11PM

that is terrific work. what i am about to in no way diminishes the creativity of what knuckles has done

God knows i am not PC but i guess if you are of certain descents it is ok to to use racial slurs to promote cards. i also realize the kraut line term was used as term of affection back in the day, but so were a lot of things.

being a white, heterosexual, christian middle aged male with norther european ancestors i realize i am fair game for the rest of the country, because many people with my characteristics have made it to the top. there are however many, MANY more that have not.

i can imagine the outrage if koufax and greenberg were put on a card with some jewish slur or mays, aaron and gibson with a racial slur or clemente, marichal and tony perez had a catchy hispanic phrase with them.

i live in st. louis so there was a lot of coverage to the banning of the University of Illinois mascot. I support that ban. if there was any group in this country that has a right to complain about being kept down it is certainly the Native American.

tennesseebanker · June 9, 2007 12:13PM

+1 for Knuckles

HockeyAutoCollector · June 9, 2007 12:34PM

<< i can imagine the outrage if koufax and greenberg were put on a card with some jewish slur or mays, aaron and gibson with a racial slur or clemente, marichal and tony perez had a catchy hispanic phrase with them.

i live in st. louis so there was a lot of coverage to the banning of the University of Illinois mascot. I support that ban. if there was any group in this country that has a right to complain about being kept down it is certainly the Native American. >>

I agree with you sentiments, but the difference between Koufax, Greenberg, etc. and Woody Dumart, Milt Schmidt, and Bobby Bauer are that they were known as the Kraut Line while they were playing. I believe it was their coach gave them the nickname while they were in the minor leagues and it stuck throughout their playing careers. If you look up information on them from the hockey hall of fame, it mentions their nickname. Also, the nickname was not for the religion or ethniticity, it was because they came from Kitchener, Ontario, which was named Berlin, Ontario until 1916.

storm888 · June 9, 2007 12:44PM

"If you look up information on them from the hockey hall of fame, it mentions there nickname."

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Yup.

To be politically correct, the phrase could have been placed
in quotes; but the reference to those guys using the phrase
was universal back in the day.

I sure hope I live long enough to see the backlash/reversal
of "politically correct," but I doubt that I will.

HoofHearted · June 9, 2007 1:22PM

Remarkable work by Knuckles. Thanks for sharing!!

DrBuster · June 9, 2007 1:35PM

<< Knuckles 1
Card Companies 0 >>

I think this probably shoots the tally closer to:
Knuckles - 100
Card Cos - 0

I obviously don't comment much all too often, but Knuckles' work is amazing and deserves stating.

Knuckles · June 9, 2007 3:59PM

Thanks for the praise everyone

you're very wecome Sean. I would be lying if I said that I didn't really enjoy taking that apart.

Taken from the Hockey Hall of Fame website...

<< In today's politically correct arena, a nickname like the Kraut Line would never exist. But that was before the pronouncement of World War II. With the eruption of war, the climate became a great deal more sensitive. "When we went into the service in 1942, they held contests in Boston to do away with the Kraut Line name. The person who won called us the 'Buddy Line.' It didn't last very long," laughs Milt. "After the war, we got back to Boston in 1945-46 and went back to being the Kraut Line again. It was quite a handle. We enjoyed it. We were all of German descent. My Mom and Dad were both born in Germany and came over to Canada at a very young age." >>

After much reading, I only found that the 3 really enjoyed the name.

ctsoxfan · June 9, 2007 4:18PM

Even a non-hockey fan like myself can appreciate the nice work on that card - well done!

Tedw9 · June 9, 2007 10:41PM

Wow, that is some incredible work Knuckles!

I would rather spend my hard earned dollars on a card like Knuckles made over what the card companies are offering. Actually, Knuckles work are not "cards" but pieces of "art".

I tip my cap to you Knuckles, you are truly an artist.

cohocorp · June 10, 2007 12:54AM

knuckles has an amazing talent. well done!

handyman · June 10, 2007 4:58AM

Why did you crack it out of the BVG case?

alifaxwa2 · June 10, 2007 5:43AM

<< Why did you crack it out of the BVG case? >>

probably because it was ugly

skilow · June 10, 2007 5:48AM

How big is this card now? Too bad it can't go back into a PSA/DNA holder, can it?

HockeyAutoCollector · June 10, 2007 7:21AM

<< How big is this card now? Too bad it can't go back into a PSA/DNA holder, can it? >>

It is now the size of a normal Tall Boy card. It will go to PSA/DNA and fit into their Tall Boy holder.

jimq112 · June 10, 2007 8:41AM

Knuckles, I just saw an auto page of Lord Stanley from 1904 for sale, anything you would be interested in?

jim

HockeyAutoCollector · June 10, 2007 8:50AM

<< Knuckles, I just saw an auto page of Lord Stanley from 1904 for sale, anything you would be interested in?

jim >>

Jim, PM sent.

HockeyAutoCollector · June 10, 2007 8:57AM

Jim, here is the Lord Stanley that Knuckles also designed for me.

Knuckles · June 10, 2007 2:28PM

Thanks for thinking of me Jim, appreciate it. Is this the Lord Stanley from the latest Lelands auction? I'm watching it but I'm sure it will go beyond what I would like to pay. If not I'm all ears and will be thankful for the tip.

Thanks again,

- Garret

jimq112 · June 10, 2007 9:49PM

Yep, that's it Garrett. That sig would make a beautiful card!

Link to auction

Knuckles · June 11, 2007 3:10AM

Sure would, thanks again.

baseballjeff · June 11, 2007 4:31AM

How would PSA grade and slab these cards you make? I like them, I like them a lot. I just don't know if I support the idea of PSA slabbing them.

HockeyAutoCollector · June 11, 2007 5:00AM

<< How would PSA grade and slab these cards you make? I like them, I like them a lot. I just don't know if I support the idea of PSA slabbing them. >>

PSA/DNA slabs them in the normal slabs and marks them as authentic. PSA/DNA uses the blue flip, not the red ones used for typical cards. PSA/DNA treats these the same as they would index cards or any other autograph that is encapsulated. Here is a link to what some of the other cards that Knuckles has done for me look after encapsulation.

Encapsulated Thread

ArnyVee · June 11, 2007 5:58AM

What's the price for a Knucks original? I'd like to do a Thurl Ravenscroft sig on a card.

HockeyAutoCollector · June 11, 2007 7:05AM

<< What's the price for a Knucks original? I'd like to do a Thurl Ravenscroft sig on a card. >>

I am sure you could PM him for a price.

Grifog · June 11, 2007 12:50PM

I gotta admit. That is very impressive.

noanswersonlyquestions · June 11, 2007 1:23PM

Wow! Think I have seen threads about his work before. Those are truly beautiful. Please don't get a job working for a card company, I don't think I could afford to go back to modern and chase those cards. Awesome work.

This is how signature cut cards should look!

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