Been a while since I've done an eBay impulse BIN...

coinpictures

This one caught my eye tonight. Common coin... but old holder, MSPL, what's not to like?

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ColinCMR

nice grab, what's it mean though, MS with proof like surfaces?

BS

Nice, I like the reverse.

coinpictures

Well, unfortunately I don't think the color at the base of the reverse is actually there. That is symptomatic of mirrored surfaces when imaged by a flatbed scanner.

Looking at pop reports, I notice that NGC has slabbed two MSPL examples, but no proofs. Mistake by NGC?

theboz11

Nice pick up

TwoKopeiki

I would've thought it a proof if I saw it raw - nice pick-up!

goldboy

Great coin! Would've been a nice accent if that was the actual coloring on the reverse

Rickc300

Very nice pick up, I would have taken that one too if I had found it. I am curious to see what you think of it in hand. It sure does look like a proof from the scan.

coinkat

Nice... it did get a PL designation... just for the fun of it, check the NGC and even the PCGS pop report to find out if either service gives a DMPL for this coin and German States coins in general. I like it and it may not be as common as one thinks as a PL or DMPL. The coin even has alittle cameo look to it. Terrific buy.

rhound1977

Looks nice to me, I like it, is it that blue in person as shown on the reverse?

coinpictures

As I mention above, my bet is that the color is reflection, and not actually there on the coin... would be nice if it were though...

ajaan

Let me know when you get the coin. I bought from these guys once and it took them 2 weeks to put the coins in the mail.

coinpictures

<< <i>Let me know when you get the coin. I bought from these guys once and it took them 2 weeks to put the coins in the mail. >>



I received an email this afternoon that the coin has shipped. We'll see...

coinpictures

Coin arrived today. No complaints about delivery time at all.

The coin has the cameo and deep mirrors of a proof, but there is definitely curvature at the periphery as opposed to flat fields.

So what's the giveaway for a proof versus a FirstStrike(tm)?

EDIT: There are definitely die breaks through "VON BAYERN" on the obverse. Wouldn't expect die breaks on a proof...

3Mark

<< <i>Coin arrived today. No complaints about delivery time at all.

The coin has the cameo and deep mirrors of a proof, but there is definitely curvature at the periphery as opposed to flat fields.

So what's the giveaway for a proof versus a FirstStrike(tm)?

EDIT: There are definitely die breaks through "VON BAYERN" on the obverse. Wouldn't expect die breaks on a proof... >>



Dan:

On a first strike (EA) the die is polished, but the planchet is not. First I compare one to a known proof and then look at the fields all the way to the rim and around the lettering. These areas will not be as " proofy" as a regular proof. Disregard planchet striations which seem to be common on Bavarian proofs and die breaks are not totally unknown on proofs. I suspect that this is a EA (erstabschlag). BTW, if it is raw I look at the edge to see if it looks like a proof, but hard in this case, since it is slabbed. 3Mark

Cladiator

I can't believe something that old and that nice and that cool is so inexpensive. Darkside rocks