Is this an acceptable way to ship a mid 70's Topps set?

basestealer

Obviously, I think not. I am horrified. The entire set was shipped in "bricks", tightly wrapped in magazine and newspaper pages, and placed into a cardboard mailing box. The postage was just over $6, although I paid $12 for shipping. Had the cards been shipped in a 75 cent baseball card box, they would have been fine. As it is now, the cards all have damaged corners, and none are suitable for my set. How much damage was done due to the shipping method versus what already existed, I have no clue.

Does anyone else think this is an acceptable form of shipping cards?

jeffcbay

I would demand a refund...

DaddyRich

That just hurts to look at, how can people who aren't baseball card lovers come across sets like this to sell? Definitely go for the refund if you can. My sympathies.

Carew29

Graphix

OK...I am going to be honest here. I don't know alot about cards and such but cmon. I think any could figure out that would not be a good way to ship them. I don't think it would be wrong to demand a refund for the purchase price & the shipping costs. It is painfully obvious that the extra $6 was not spent in time, materials or brains.

basestealer

<< <i>That just hurts to look at, how can people who aren't baseball card lovers come across sets like this to sell? Definitely go for the refund if you can. My sympathies. >>


I was thinking the same thing (that the seller wasn't a card guru), but in looking at his other auctions, cards is all he sells. So, I guess he's a card collector, not a seller (just dumping personal collection?), and doesn't know how to care for them, at least outside of his hobby room, where I imagine they were stored in something quite a step up from wrinkled magazine pages. The cards were advertised as near mint, although most are EX, and it's due to corner wear that *looks* fresh. Otherwise they are free of major centering issues, have nice gloss, and everything else. I was hoping to pick maybe 50 or so cards out of the set for my own set but I don't think I'll find even 1 now, unless it was spared the paper treatment by resting somewhere in the middle of these man-made bricks. Seller has 100% positive feedback. Interesting enough, had he just admitted he was too cheap to package them properly I would have gladly sent him a box for free, if it meant sparing the cards.

SoonerCowboy

Why does it seem like almost 50% of sellers will either package your cards like crap or take 10 days(after same day Paypal payment) to decide to get off their butt to mail your goods. I've been an Ebay member(no jokes please) for 7 yrs and this crap is just getting worse. I had a factory sealed 2000 CE Supreme set crammed into a priority mail envelope. Of course when it arrived the box was sticking out of the envelope and all of the rookies had damaged corners.

CDsNuts

I've had a wicked run of people packing stuff inappropriately- here are the highlights:

- Several complete sets not packed tight, so the cards bounce around and corners get clobbered.
- An unopened box with the packs thrown into a plastic bag and put into a bubble mailer without the display box.
- A complete set of 1977-78 basketball loosely put into a paper thin box (think posterboard) then mailed without any additional packaging.
- A bunch of wax boxes put into a box and not double boxed- All boxes touching the corners had smashed corners.


Do people not know this stuff is condition sensitive? If it were a glass vase, would they haphazardly throw it into a bubble mailer with nothing else to protect it? I just don't get it.

Lee

drewsef

where's Estil when you need him

lostdart58

What condition was this set supposed to be in??

WinPitcher

. The cards were advertised as near mint,

Sorry this happened to you base.


Steve

Yankeeefan

Paid $12 for shipping and that's the way they were sent? That's just WRONG! Go for the refund.

cravetopps

regardless of how they were packed, looking at them, they were definitely not NM to begin with so you have an item not as described beef as well as a packaging beef.

Buccaneer

<< <i>regardless of how they were packed, looking at them, they were definitely not NM to begin with so you have an item not as described beef as well as a packaging beef. >>



99% of raw cards or sets are not as described, that's a given

When I sold my 1973 set and then my 1974 set, I had all of the cards in sheets in a binder. I then wrapped the full binder tons of bubble wrap and stuck it in a fairly good sized box. But then again, I pack single cards in a cardboard taco (folded over as oppose to sandwiched) for the hundreds of shipments I've made. Kinda anal about that.

storm888

Get a refund.

SNAD + Shipping Damage.

Estil

<< <i>where's Estil when you need him >>



What's that supposed to mean? And yes, go for refund all the way. Getting an overgraded set is bad enough but for it to arrive like that shows total lack of respect for cards. I don't care if it's a damn 1991 Fleer set; you just don't ship cards like that.

TNTonPMS

I would definitley go for a refund too.
But what is to stop this person from saying he didn't get all the cards back , so he is not going to give a refund , or a full refund ?
Has anything like that ever happened to anyone on the board ?

FWIW that really stinks though .
How the heck could they not know the value of the card is in the condition .

Allen

I bought a lot from an ebay seller that was 1970's baseball. Just over 100 cards, inluded 3 71 Munsons, 3 71 Rose, 5 73 Ryans etc. All in shoebox condition. But the seller was not a card collector, he shipped them in 10 card bricks wraped in legal pad pages and packaged in a box stuffed with large pieces of the temporary floormats from havoline oil change. For the guy to not have any card supplies or maybe not even know about them, he did a pretty good job. Sometimes I sell items on ebay that they probably make some type of collector supplies for, but I do my best to package them safely.

originalisbest

That sucks - sorry basestealer - it's why I go to the bother of specifically asking for bulletproof packing, etc. - but in spite of it you sometimes still get nonsense like this. Bummer.

blades3

Let us know what happens. I had this happen to me once for a 1977-78 Topps Basketball set and had paid through paypal and it was very long, drawn out process but i eventually got my money back.

digicat

While we're on the topic, if you're looking for quality sets from the 70s era, who's the best guy to buy from?

ORANGE

Card collectors sure are morons! That's the look I'm used to getting from nons. Like the old lady at Wal-Mart who slams your unopened packs down on the scanner or grabs them like she's trying to hold a fish. Then you just say "lady I can't buy those now!"

fiveniner

Thats about as ugly as it gets.Get a refund,No excuse for that.

AtlFalconsAzDbacks

Absolutely not.
Although it was prolly just incompetence and not an attempt to scam you.
despite charging 12 for shipping....
refund man...

basestealer

<< <i>I would definitley go for a refund too.
But what is to stop this person from saying he didn't get all the cards back , so he is not going to give a refund , or a full refund ?
Has anything like that ever happened to anyone on the board ?

FWIW that really stinks though .
How the heck could they not know the value of the card is in the condition . >>


That's one of the reasons I didn't go for a refund in this case. The seller didn't offer one, either. I didn't want to deal with the mess, the loss of shipping/handling both ways, and since I'm out of town for 3 weeks on Monday I wouldn't have had time to anyway. Instead, I left a negative feedback explaining why. He then sent me an email claiming the auction didn't specifically state the cards would be shipped in a box, and he said the "cards weren't damaged" (and since they were damaged I could not possibly have sent them back to him in the condition they left his home, lol). I did my best to educate him on his responsibility to deliver items securely to his buyers, and that the way he shipped them was unacceptable. I hope this upset his system enough to do it right next time, and each time thereafter. His other feedback comments were positives like "packed securely!" for similar lots--so I wonder if I'm the lucky guy that got it this way, or if others just find this sort of packaging to be top notch. I'm not afraid to leave appropriate feedback either way--far too many people avoid the truth to save their own reputations, or leave glowing positives simply because their little disaster was "resolved"--leaving future buyers in the dark. He has not sent me a follow-up response so I *think* he got the message, and I *hope* he improves. That's what feedback is for, in my opinion, not just for others to look at but for the person receiving it to learn from and improve upon. At least that's what the feedback system is supposed to be. I guess the reality is that it's just a tool for people to use in blackmail, hostage situations, or to fiercly guard like the jewel of the nile, using any means necessary. Those "means" should be customer service, not excuses and games. <end soapbox>