1984 Fleer Update Roga!

lawnmowerman

I'm kinda in a dilemma. I have this card in BGS 9.5, all 9.5 sub form. The card is great. One of the nicest I have seen. From what I can tell a PSA 10 easy.



I'm most likely gonna sell it but the problem I'm having is the last few BGS 9.5's, all 9.5 sub cards sold for under $ 1000.00. The last PSA 10 version sold for $1600.00!

Who knows if the psa 10 auction was shilled or someone needed it for the registry and that was why it sold so high.

So what to do? Do I send it in for crossover(only accepting a 10 in return) and take the chance of it being damaged in the process or sell it as is and possibly not make that much money?

Thanks

tennesseebanker

Welcome Back Bro !

I would take advantage of Clemens being in the news lately and sell it right away if you were going to sell it.

Alfonz24

Good to see you back.

You could always list it with a high start price on .20 cent listing days. It may take a couple tries but I would geuss someone would take a flyer.

Let someone else take the chance in crossing it over if they want for a PSA 10. What is the POP?

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Welcome Back Bro !

I would take advantage of Clemens being in the news lately and sell it right away if you were going to sell it. >>



Thanks my friend

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Good to see you back.

You could always list it with a high start price on .20 cent listing days. It may take a couple tries but I would geuss someone would take a flyer.

Let someone else take the chance in crossing it over if they want for a PSA 10. What is the POP? >>



Thanks

The pop is psa 10 = 206!

pandrews

welcome to the boards newbie..

there was another guy here with your name & a cowbell avatar once..

Brian48

Beautiful specimen. Actually, I'd leave it in existing holder. Nice presentation.

CDsNuts

I have a subscription for ebay's marketplace research which lets you go back 90 days. If it helps, here's some data on the 1984 Clemens:


PSA 10: 12 sold- avg. $1516
BGS 9.5: 12 sold- avg. $992

Seems like it's worth the risk of crossing over if you're looking to sell. Since the surface subgrade is 9.5, yours most likely isn't sheet-cut. I see no reason why it wouldn't be a PSA 10. In fact, I actually wouldn't even crack it the first time just to see if PSA will cross it over. Your only risk here is damaging the card while cracking the slab, so I wouldn't mess with it if I didn't have to.

Lee

Stingray

<< <i>I have a subscription for ebay's marketplace research which lets you go back 90 days. If it helps, here's some data on the 1984 Clemens:


PSA 10: 12 sold- avg. $1516
BGS 9.5: 12 sold- avg. $992

Seems like it's worth the risk of crossing over if you're looking to sell. Since the surface subgrade is 9.5, yours most likely isn't sheet-cut. I see no reason why it wouldn't be a PSA 10. In fact, I actually wouldn't even crack it the first time just to see if PSA will cross it over. Your only risk here is damaging the card while cracking the slab, so I wouldn't mess with it if I didn't have to.

Lee >>



Nice research there, makes a case for submitting it to PSA to get that 10.

lawnmowermanswife

gosteelers

<< <i>I have a subscription for ebay's marketplace research which lets you go back 90 days. If it helps, here's some data on the 1984 Clemens:


PSA 10: 12 sold- avg. $1516
BGS 9.5: 12 sold- avg. $992

Seems like it's worth the risk of crossing over if you're looking to sell. Since the surface subgrade is 9.5, yours most likely isn't sheet-cut. I see no reason why it wouldn't be a PSA 10. In fact, I actually wouldn't even crack it the first time just to see if PSA will cross it over. Your only risk here is damaging the card while cracking the slab, so I wouldn't mess with it if I didn't have to.

Lee >>



What if it comes back a 9, though? How much do you stand to lose?

CDsNuts

Only grading fees assuming you can crack it, send it to BGS and get another 9.5.

Lee

Graphix

Can you specify a minimum grade on a crossover at PSA? If so then it wouldn't matter if you want to only cross at 10.

CDsNuts

Yeah, that too.

downgoesfrazier

"Guess what...I gotta feeva...and the only prescription, is a PSA 10!"

That card is a virtual lock on cross-over--even in the holder. Unless those corners have wear or an enamel chip not visible in the scan (or the reverse is chipped up quite a bit) I can't see where anybody wouldn't assign a gem grade to that. For the $600 difference you eluded to, it is worth the attempt at a crossover. I would do so in the holder. If you could do it on-site; even better.

That's a fabulous looking card.

dgf

stown

<< <i>welcome to the boards newbie..

there was another guy here with your name & a cowbell avatar once.. >>



I vaguely recall that dude but he was some sissy that had a man-crush on Emmitt

Ahmanfan

Nice card. When did you get it , and how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking?

thanks
John

lawnmowerman

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<< <i>welcome to the boards newbie..

there was another guy here with your name & a cowbell avatar once.. >>



I vaguely recall that dude but he was some sissy that had a man-crush on Emmitt >>





Thanks everyone, I appreciate it.

Lee. thanks for the great info! I am gonna send it in with a minimum grade of 10. Obviously if it doesnt meet psa 10 standards(which I do believe it does) it will come back in the bgs slab.

John, I bought it a few years ago and if memory serves it cost me $1200.00 or $1300.00

stown

Dance, Emmitt, Dance!