with the talk of scams how about this one that just happened. what would you do???
itsinthegrade
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this just happened last week.
a guy from ohio purchased $1500 worth of a 2007 football wax. some super high end product that i dont know what it is.
he contacted a guy on ebay & offered him $ money to end. the seller agreed & ended the auction. he accepted paypal so the buyer felt proteced. the seller sent with del conf.
when the package arrived it was empty boxes with newspaer in it. the seller sent with del conf so paypal says he received the item.
i know the kid who bought the wax & he contacted both paypal & the authorities but his word against the sellers..
what would you do?
i will get the sellers name & post when i get it. so relax!
a guy from ohio purchased $1500 worth of a 2007 football wax. some super high end product that i dont know what it is.
he contacted a guy on ebay & offered him $ money to end. the seller agreed & ended the auction. he accepted paypal so the buyer felt proteced. the seller sent with del conf.
when the package arrived it was empty boxes with newspaer in it. the seller sent with del conf so paypal says he received the item.
i know the kid who bought the wax & he contacted both paypal & the authorities but his word against the sellers..
what would you do?
i will get the sellers name & post when i get it. so relax!
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<< <i>You sure know a lot of people that are either ripping people off or getting ripped off...... >>
i do a lot of shows & talk to 100's of dealers accross the country. just like anything else they love to gossip to.
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good point. I would still see if the postage amount jives with the weight. If it doesn't, then you have another option which is to file a legal claim...mail fraud. Sounds like a legal battle looming on the horizon in any event.
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
should b intresting to see how things materialize.
julen
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<< <i>You sure know a lot of people that are either ripping people off or getting ripped off...... >>
If you are going to continue throwing out accusations, please include full names so it can be confirmed and/or the accused has a chance to defend him/herself.
Otherwise, it's only gossip which doesn't do anyone any good. In fact, you are hurting the industry by making these claims.
So, please, either wait until you have all of the facts to post or don't post rumors/2nd or 3rd hand knowledge/gossip unless you claim it to be such.
Thanks.
Edited to add: Isn't ending auctions early an eBay TOS violation?
Edited again: The above posters are correct in regards to the weight. The story isn't adding up but that's been your typical MO, IMO
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<< <i>You sure know a lot of people that are either ripping people off or getting ripped off...... >>
If you are going to continue throwing out accusations, please include full names so it can be confirmed and/or the accused has a chance to defend him/herself.
Otherwise, it's only gossip which doesn't do anyone any good. In fact, you are hurting the industry by making these claims.
So, please, either wait until you have all of the facts to post or don't post rumors/2nd or 3rd hand knowledge/gossip.
Thanks.
Edited to add: Isn't ending auctions early an eBay TOS violation?
Edited again: The above posters are correct in regards to the weight. The story isn't adding up but that's been your typical MO, IMO
I think someone has the right to ask a question as an agent for another party who, for whatever reason, would like to remain anonymous. And with regards to outing the seller, while that may be of considerable benefit to others who buy on Ebay it shouldn't be a necessary step in order to get feedback from other board members on what they would do in this situation.
Steve
edited to add: is 07 Football even out yet?
<< <i><<<I think I missed something here...if the buyer and seller agreed to a transaction and the seller ended the auction and sold the lot to the buyer outside of eBay, I don't think the Buyer Protection qualifies.>>>
good point. I would still see if the postage amount jives with the weight. If it doesn't, then you have another option which is to file a legal claim...mail fraud. Sounds like a legal battle looming on the horizon in any event. >>
At some point someone needs to do 30 days for one of these little stunts. And it needs to be reported in prominent newspapers.
<< <i>I think someone has the right to ask a question as an agent for another party who, for whatever reason, would like to remain anonymous. And with regards to outing the seller, while that may be of considerable benefit to others who buy on Ebay it shouldn't be a necessary step in order to get feedback from other board members on what they would do in this situation. >>
I agree with what you are saying but not in this circumstance.
In consecutive days, he posts outragous scams: a "kid" got suckered out of $30K and now someone else got screwed out of $1,500 in a shady eBay transaction.
Both, IMO, are nothing more than gossip and neither story adds up.
By not disclosing the full, entire story, he's doing more harm than good.
Is it a coincidence that the Beckett boards have been down the past 2 days
But again, that's just my opinion.
lsuconnman@yahoo.com
and sold the lot to the buyer outside of eBay, I don't think the Buyer Protection qualifies."
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PayPal will probably not help, BUT a credit-card company probably will.
I'm always looking for an excuse to get away, and some schmuck scamming me out of a bunch of money would fill that void.
Lee
<< <i>Pitt - I thought the same thing myself, it's almost like a "what if" scenario more than actuality. >>
That could be the case. You always take a chance when making a purchase through the mail whether it be on ebay, a dealer or even on the the boards here, would not this type of deal be considered mail fraud? A federal offense? I am not sure on either but it must be hard to confirm, for instance say I purchase a big $$ item and when I receive the item I store it somewhere and claim I got ripped off? It seems like a no win situation.
Eddited to add: Dragging something like this in court would also be a financial risk I would think if it was continued without a finding right?
or sightsee or whatever. Hell, take a burly friend with you and pretend
he's your hired goon.................
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You would more likely be relaxing in an out-of-town jail cell.
Worse case scenario, the bad guy shoots/kills you and your goon,
and you can relax in the hospital/morgue.
Second worse-case, you and the goon kill the bad guy, and you
end up in the pen for 25-years. The goon WILL testify against
you, to save himself.
Self-help against unknown entities is ALWAYS ill-advised.
The law works; you just have to know how to use it and
persist in the effort.
The USPS inspectors are great at busting fraudsters.
"The Villain"
Shiba Rescue Organization
A Shiba Inu is a terrible thing to waste!
<< <i>The law works; you just have to know how to use it and
persist in the effort. >>
Sure does. Just ask OJ....
<< <i>Could it be someone is testing the waters to see what they can get away with in the future?
I think if they're doing that , they're definitely not helping themselves that's for sure because they're raising awareness .
Completely counter-productive if that is the case in every way .
The law did work in the OJ case. The prosecution simply did not prove their case.
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>"B) Kick the guy's ass, and then have a few days to relax on the beach
or sightsee or whatever. Hell, take a burly friend with you and pretend
he's your hired goon.................
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You would more likely be relaxing in an out-of-town jail cell.
Worse case scenario, the bad guy shoots/kills you and your goon,
and you can relax in the hospital/morgue.
Second worse-case, you and the goon kill the bad guy, and you
end up in the pen for 25-years. The goon WILL testify against
you, to save himself.
Self-help against unknown entities is ALWAYS ill-advised.
The law works; you just have to know how to use it and
persist in the effort.
The USPS inspectors are great at busting fraudsters. >>
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Absolutely . . . I would be mad as hell but I'm sure not going to risk going to jail/die over a lousy couple of grand .
Even for that 30K deal . . . . Your freedom /life is far more valuable .
I just heard about this scam in Japan on the radio a few minutes ago that is worth sharing--- It appears that some elderly wealthy Japense women that were singled out, were sold what they thought to be small miniture poodles. Later they grew up to be full grown SHEEP!!
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
- Someone insulting my family
- Someone stealing my money
I'm not some meathead that goes out and starts fights with every jackass that calls me a name, but if you step over the line and do one of the two above things, a confrontation will most likely ensue.
Lee
<< <i>I just heard about this scam in Japan on the radio a few minutes ago that is worth sharing--- It appears that some elderly wealthy Japense women that were singled out, were sold what they thought to be small miniture poodles. Later they grew up to be full grown SHEEP!!
Shoodle??
"The Villain"
Shiba Rescue Organization
A Shiba Inu is a terrible thing to waste!
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And a fine looking beast, too!
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I did not mean to imply that was the case.
Only that it would be meatheaded to get shot, killed or imprisoned
over insults or money.
Folks who have time should visit their local civil-court venues,
and see how well the process really works. The harmed person
usually prevails.
SD
guy from ohio purchased $1500 worth of a 2007 football wax.
<< <i>Is 2007 Football even out yet?
SD
guy from ohio purchased $1500 worth of a 2007 football wax. >>
And the plot thickens....
<< <i>"Sure does. Just ask OJ...."
The law did work in the OJ case. The prosecution simply did not prove their case.
Mark >>
A jury of 12
A sad company
Uneducated and plyable
A killer may flee.
<< <i>Shoodle??
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And a fine looking beast, too!
Same price as our new labradoodle!
...so looks like something is out for 07
Clear Skies,
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>Look, all I'm saying is there is a short list of things that would I feel would be worth fighting over:
- Someone insulting my family
- Someone stealing my money
Lee >>
Remind me to never try and steal your blind.
"The Villain"
Shiba Rescue Organization
A Shiba Inu is a terrible thing to waste!