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A dealer ripping the unwary? Or a good deal.....

tincuptincup Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
.... or..... How to rip the public at a coin show.

There have been many discussions on this board on how dealers take advantage of the unknowing public, at coin shows and in the brick and mortar coin shops. If any of you subscribe to Coins Magazine, there was an interesting letter in the coin finds section of the June 2007 issue. Sounds like the writer probably got ripped pretty good....

The writer described how they happened to come across various coins through the year. However, they did not appear to have a lot of knowledge on values, etc. The writer happened to receive some coins from a 90 year old lady... which were more or less given to the writer. One of the coins happened to be a 1796 quarter; and the writer acknowleged that he did not know the value of this.

Some years later, (maybe around the 1980 to 1990 time frame), the writer decided to attend a coin show in Cleveland, where approximately 200 dealers were in attendance. He brought along a small bag of coins, in which was also the 1796 quarter. The rest of the story is best described in his words:

"As I went in the door with the bag, a coin dealer grabbed the bag out of my hand, turned around, and emptied it on a table behind his counter. I think he went crazy. He wouldn't give my quarter back and asked me what I wanted in trade. He gave me five or six coins I needed to complete my collections. He said, "Is that all?" And I agreed."

Later the dealer caught the guy before he left the show, thanked him for the quarter, and then proceeded to tell him how it paid for his entire week in Cleveland. The dealer mentioned he was a dealer on Long Island, and had a client that would give him $12,000 for the quarter. The dealer thanked him again and again.......

So not only did the guy probably get ripped.... the dealer then had to rub salt in the wounds by telling the guy how much it was going to get him?? OUch.....

Very brave of the guy to write the letter telling about this, and kind of gives one a sinking feeling... Perhaps he got a good deal on the trades... but I really doubt it. image Oh well, easy come, easy go. The guy got it for a quarter from the 90 year old gal years before... and so it goes. Anyways, I thought a very interesting letter.
----- kj

Comments

  • That sounds more like stealing
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eerily similar to a $500,000+ collection that was bought by a local B&M shop in Connecticut for $50,000 in the 1988-1990 period.

    Not a good deal, but outright stealing.

    roadrunner
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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeh, kind of sounds like the dealer was like a pit bull with the quarter.... once he sunk his teeth into it, he wasn't going to give it up.

    The guy selling the coins probably felt he had no choice but to accept whatever he could get from the dealer... was probably thinking he wasn't going to get his coin back anyways.
    ----- kj
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    was probably thinking he wasn't going to get his coin back anyways

    I wouldn't allow myself to get taken like that- I would have called security over and had that dealer wanker arrested...
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    "grabbed the bag out of his hand" ??????????????

    You are kidding right?

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm fantasizing about a right hook to the jaw right now. Grrr.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You guys do realize that letters to the editor aren't verified as to veracity, right?

    Russ, NCNE
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    That's patently ridiculous on the part of the person who "sold" to that dealer. Who in their right mind, at a show, wouldn't IMMEDIATELY demand their coin back, right then and there? Makes less than any sense to me.
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>"grabbed the bag out of his hand" ??????????????

    You are kidding right?

    Steve >>



    I'm with you. Calling major b.s. on this guy's letter.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Or, I could take Russ' cynical worldview. image
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"grabbed the bag out of his hand" ??????????????

    You are kidding right?

    Steve >>



    Those were the words written in his letter.

    " You guys do realize that letters to the editor aren't verified as to veracity, right?"

    Good point Russ. This is a letter written to Coins Magazine, and I'm sure that there are no verifications. So who knows. But... no doubt there are many transactions of this type... we hear quite frequently of the rips that occur at the expense of the unwary. (I guess it can be said the guy 'ripped' the coin from the 90 year old lady.... but according to the letter, he did not know what it was or worth).
    ----- kj
  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856
    If that is true than that dealer is the worst kind of loser there is.
    aka Dan
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    I hope that Russ is right and that this isn't true.
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    A dealer "grabbing a bag", maybe its true, haven't you seen Coinguy's icon--------------------BigE
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I think the little old lady got ripped, she didn't get anything---------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have to be responsible for yourself.
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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103


    << <i>"grabbed the bag out of his hand" ??????????????

    You are kidding right?

    Steve >>



    I know one dealer who would be face down on the ground if they tried that.
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    Positive BST: WhiteThunder (x2), Ajaan, onefasttalon, mirabela, Wizard1, cucamongacoin, mccardguy1


    Negative BST: NONE!
  • it's not illegal or immoral if it is done in the name of PROFIT ™


    P R O F I T ™
    know what you don't know.

    hi, i'm tom.

    i do not doctor coins like some who post in here.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You probably don't want to hear about the stamp collection that went from $500 to $75,000 to $250,000 in a two week period.

    ............that I saw going down the driveway in the back of a fully loaded pickup truck.


  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image
  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One of the coins happened to be a 1796 quarter; and the writer acknowleged that he did not know the value of this. >>



    So, this guy doesn't know how to find the value of a 1796 quarter?



    << <i>He gave me five or six coins I needed to complete my collections. >>



    But now he is a coin collector? I doubt this entire story, and put no stock in it.
    It sounds like this is someone who has a vendetta against coin dealers in general.





  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>someone who has a vendetta against coin dealers in general. >>



    HERE ??? ........... WHERE ???........... IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!
    image
  • If both parties were happy with the deal, then who are we to judge.......


    AL
  • Makes me want to sell my coins before I pass on from this world.

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