When will PSA grade it Pr-Fr 1 and when will they grade it "Authentic"

frankhardy

I just acquired this T 206 Cobb in a huge collection. I have no doubt that it is real. I have looked at it with a loupe and the card comes from a reliable sourse. I just feel that it will sell better in a PSA holder. My question is - what will this grade? A Pr-Fr 1 or "Authentic"? Where do you draw the line? When do they refuse to holder if a piece is missing? I mean, I am sure they wouldn't holder half a card (even if it was a 52 Mantle or a T206 Wagner? Here is a scan of front and back.

storm888

I think I have seen worse cards in a PSA 1 holder.

If you know: Are the white paper-loss spots quite recent?

frankhardy

Actually, yes. There was some clear plastic stuck to it. I pulled it off, and presto - white paper loss! Me personally, would still rather have it that way than with plastic stuck to it.

storm888

"Actually, yes. There was some clear plastic stuck to it.
I pulled it off, and presto - white paper loss! Me personally,
would still rather have it that way than with plastic stuck to it. "

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I was concerned that the white-paper was out of place.
Now, I know that it is not.

If you have the problem again, you should consider at
least trying to soak-off whatever is stuck to the cards,
before using force. After a day or less in a bowl of water,
most unwanted stuff will float off w/o ripping the surface.

Just put the wet card in a paper-towel or a flat t-shirt rag,
and put it between a BIG phone-book for a couple days;
usually works out well.

If you already know all that stuff, pardon the redundancy.

frankhardy

No, I didn't know that. Crud!

Will the white paper loss hurt the card as far as getting it authenticated, or will they know regardless. I looked through a loupe, and the black border is solid (not speckled print dots like a counterfeit would be).

djspann

I don't think I've ever seen a PSA 1 with this much damage. I'd be surprised if you got a grade better than authentic...


Doug

frankhardy

That would be ok. I just want to be sure that they will do "authentic" on that card. I would say that they would since it is such a popular card.

djspann

Given the draw of this card, I'd bet PSA would slab it as authentic. I've seen other cards with a bit more missing still grade authentic, including a T206 Cobb Portrait.


Doug

Estil

Maybe there should be a PSA 0 grade?

1960toppsguy

Actually, there is a PSA-0 grade, I refer to it as trash!

frankhardy

<< <i>Actually, there is a PSA-0 grade, I refer to it as trash! >>



Since that Cobb is just trash, these is no need for me to have it. I'll just give it to you. Send me your address if you want it.

PSARich

I recently sent in a 1952 Topps Willie Mays that had quite a few creases but with no paper loss and it was nicely centered. It came back not gradeable due to the fact that someone had put a mark on it over a creased area. I contacted PSA and asked if they would grade it as authentic so it would be slabbed. Their response was no, that "the "Authentic" grade is used most commonly for hand-cut cards. On
other very rare occasions for very rare or very high valued cards, we will do an "Authentic" grade." I replied that I thought my card would be a candidate, after all it is one of the "Top 200 Cards" according to Joe's book. Haven't heard back yet. I would think your Cobb would be considered "rare" or "high valued", so I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in an "Authentic" holder.

Ahmanfan

what are you looking for on the Cobb?

frankhardy

As far as price? Not sure. Are you interested?

jmbkb4

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<< <i>Actually, there is a PSA-0 grade, I refer to it as trash! >>



Since that Cobb is just trash, these is no need for me to have it. I'll just give it to you. Send me your address if you want it. >>



they're just jealous, no worries. I think it will at least be PSA authentic, which will bring some serious $$$.

frankhardy

Thanks for the comment.

Estil

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<< <i>Actually, there is a PSA-0 grade, I refer to it as trash! >>



Since that Cobb is just trash, these is no need for me to have it. I'll just give it to you. Send me your address if you want it. >>



I'll take it! To get a card like that for free, why not? Who cares about condition in this case? It's still one of the greatest cards in history.

frankhardy

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<< <i>Actually, there is a PSA-0 grade, I refer to it as trash! >>



Since that Cobb is just trash, these is no need for me to have it. I'll just give it to you. Send me your address if you want it. >>



I'll take it! To get a card like that for free, why not? Who cares about condition in this case? It's still one of the greatest cards in history. >>





My point exactly.

theczar

keep it. from a historical value it has worth. i have a t206 cobb graded authentic. do i wish it were a 3 or 4 at least of course. with so much counterfeiting having a set of t206's all graded authentic wouldn't be the worst thing to have.

fandango

Shane, that card would look great in a PSA Authentic SLAB! go for it! it may even make a PSA 1......


this card has holes in the middle, but its from THE Toughest SET in the World, the 1914 Cracker Jack Set....

frankhardy

Thanks for the scan.

Should I attach a note to the Card Saver telling the grader why the paper loss in the middle is so fresh? Will the fresh paper loss raise a red flag? Or, would you just send it without a note?

Ahmanfan

Yes I'm very interested after it is slabbed, let me know! =-)

thanks
John

benderbroeth

manb i could really use that card for my set to bad i saw it to late...lol

frankhardy

Looky here!

1954 Bowman Mantle

If they would slab that as authentic, surely they would do a T206 Cobb. Wouldn't you think?

bigfische

<< <i>Shane, that card would look great in a PSA Authentic SLAB! go for it! it may even make a PSA 1......


this card has holes in the middle, but its from THE Toughest SET in the World, the 1914 Cracker Jack Set....
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This is a beautiful set but not close to bing "the toughest" . Basically if there is a complete set, its not the toughest.