1975 hobby mag -- any older?? (lots of scans)
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Does anyone have an idea what the first sports memorabilia magazine may have been?? I won a lot of six magazines not too long ago including this "Collectors Quarterly", the "Winter 1975" edition (Vol 1, Number 1). Are there any older?!
I've got 18 pages scanned and wanted to share them just for the fun of reading about this point in history of our hobby. I subscribed to Renata Galasso's publications in the '80s and she's mentioned here when she was a junior in college buying her first cards. There's also some SSPC cards in the middle two pages. Good stuff!
Here's the cover:
I've got 18 pages scanned and wanted to share them just for the fun of reading about this point in history of our hobby. I subscribed to Renata Galasso's publications in the '80s and she's mentioned here when she was a junior in college buying her first cards. There's also some SSPC cards in the middle two pages. Good stuff!
Here's the cover:
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This is an ad from Ms. Galasso:
a definate low budget publication!
very cool item ... a pioneer of sorts ...
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
If anyone wants a certain article (or all of this!) emailed to them, I can do that. It will be much easier to read on your own system. Photobucket reduced them in size, I believe, making them harder to read...
I like it!
Here's the oldest catalog I know of: 1960 By Burdick
And here's an old pub with a price guide:
mike
When I collected in the early/mid '70's The Trader Speaks was the main publication, followed by SCD and SCN. Collectors Quarterly was much less hardcore.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Steve
Thanks! I guess I'd heard of the ACC before, but hadn't seen one or knew when it was published. You da man!
I've got a feeling I may start a collection of these pubs. But, I'm on my way out the door to visit a pub or two tonight, so it'll have to wait...
Thanks for the history lesson. I'm going to catalog the catalogue information for future reference. Maybe I can start a price guide of price guides.
Where does it all end...or start in this case?!
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!
Steve,
I didn't notice Olberman's tagline there. Wonder what he'd pay for this copy?!! Maybe I could slip an Alex Gordon inside.
I need a drink and some music.
Later...
<< <i>Is that 'the' Bert Sugar who wrote that article? >>
I felt a little naive asking if I should know Mr. Sugar. I have a lot to catch up on obviously. His book looks intriguing.
(The music and all was great tonight. Time to get some sleep...)
Bosox1976
Thanks for sharing that, nice work!
Renata Gallasso along with others had great vision - tho I doubt they held out for the big payday that was the 90s!
Also, the final comments by George Lyons about two "out of town" dealers placing an ad to get people to bring them cards for purchase? He found that unethical - I assume he's alluding to the fact that the cards will be "stolen" for a lowball price? That's just the way things go. And a lot of dealers did that in the early 80s. That practice would hardly work today.
mike
<< <i>Good read on some of the items -
Renata Gallasso along with others had great vision - tho I doubt they held out for the big payday that was the 90s!
Also, the final comments by George Lyons about two "out of town" dealers placing an ad to get people to bring them cards for purchase? He found that unethical - I assume he's alluding to the fact that the cards will be "stolen" for a lowball price? That's just the way things go. And a lot of dealers did that in the early 80s. That practice would hardly work today.
mike >>
Yes, I remember a cardshop owner in my hometown talked about advertising in local newspapers that he was going to be in certain towns at certain times to buy collections. He had an awesome collection.
I think some of the articles still apply to today. Essentially, focus on what you enjoy, learn as much as you can about you favorite cards or memorabilia, be patient and you can't go wrong.
Oh, yeah, I should add that there was an article on Muhammad Ali, "The Greatest Sports Idol of All Time". If anyone wanted me to scan and post that I'd be glad to...
<< <i>Bert Sugar the boxing writer? >>
Doing a Google search on Bert Sugar, it sure looks like he is one and the same as the author of the article posted here...
<< <i>The Art Dirctor's name is Laughlin. Wonder if he produced the over-sized art cards for teams such as the Angels in the mid 70's?
Thanks for sharing that, nice work! >>
gonzer,
I'm not sure I'm familiar which over-sized cards you're referring to. If there were any Twins team cards made, I'd be interested in picking some up. I'll have to keep my out for any while scanning the eBay auctions...
Thanks for the tip!
Brian
<< <i>I also remember 2 paper magazines that came out as well. I think one was CPU Card Price Update and there was another with a similar name. One I believe was shutdown for copying prices from another publication (errors and all)
Brian >>
Now that story sounds familiar, too. I'm going to have to get all of my magazines in one place, organize them and see what the heck I've got. I may have the CPU if was issued in the '80s.
I appreciate the help!
Photos That Were Used On Baseball Cards
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
Now are these dudes cool or what.
Jefferson Burdick is to printed cards what Dewey was to Library books. He was the one who created the system we still use today - E, W, T cards etc.
He put out a mimeographed "Card Collector’s Bulletin" in the 40s which discussed cards, had a buy/sell page etc. These are the precursors to all the slick publications that out there today.
These guys were true pioneers.
Another key guy not mentioned here is Lionel Carter.
SCD published letters from these guys - very informative - wish I had saved them. It kind of gives you insight into the collecting times.
One thing is for sure - contrary to what we might want to believe - this stuff was always collected, cataloged and "priced" out. Major difference? These were adults doing this. Today a 9 yr old has a pack of cards in one hand and a Beckett in the other.
mike
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Now are these dudes cool or what.... >>
Mike, what a great job of price guide research that was! Are you a librarian/researcher/genealogist by night?!
Woody Gelman -- wasn't he part of The Card Collectors Company?? That name sure sounds familiar.
Man, I love that logo...
I believe Charles Bray took over the ACC when Burdick died in '62 or '63.
Keith Olberman was writing in his teens, his articles also ran in The Trader Speaks. So did a kid named Rob Lifson.
Mike, the Carter letters are scanned on someones website. I'll try and track it down. They were pretty cool- some things have changed, but many issues are exactly the same today as they were 50 years ago.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
card prices update and current card prices. i remember them. early to mid 80s.
<< <i>Woody Gelman was Topps art director. Richard Gelman was his son, and ran Card Collectors company. No conflict of interest there!
I believe Charles Bray took over the ACC when Burdick died in '62 or '63.
Keith Olberman was writing in his teens, his articles also ran in The Trader Speaks. So did a kid named Rob Lifson.
Mike, the Carter letters are scanned on someones website. I'll try and track it down. They were pretty cool- some things have changed, but many issues are exactly the same today as they were 50 years ago. >>
Thanx Anthony.
Like you said, some of the "issues" they had 50 yrs ago, we are still having today.
In "their" time, they thought stuff was expensive. I'm pretty sure counterfeiting and trimming was an issue back then. In fact, trimming was done by many guys to 'fit' cards for their personal needs.
One thing tho - Burdick was not the sports nut that we are - he collected all kinds of cards and was an expert on issues dealing with wildlife e.g.
Collectin' feva! I got it!
mike