Brett Favre is Selfish!!!
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He needs to be fair to his teammates and let them know if he is going to play next season or not. He's treated like some sort of saint in Green Bay, but if you ask me his only claim to fame is his durability. Really, in the big picture he's just another good QB with a ring.
If he really cared about GB he would have been grooming Aaron Rodgers instead of saying it's not his job to babysit him.
He used to be a roommate and close friend of Mark Chmura, but when he got in trouble Favre never publicly supported his friend. Then Brett gets a pass on his drug addiction.
He's far from one of the all-time greats. He's an ironman, but that's about it.
Flame away, but Brett Favre is putting his own selfish interests ahead of the team and community. If he doesn't make a decision by draft day, then cut him!
If he really cared about GB he would have been grooming Aaron Rodgers instead of saying it's not his job to babysit him.
He used to be a roommate and close friend of Mark Chmura, but when he got in trouble Favre never publicly supported his friend. Then Brett gets a pass on his drug addiction.
He's far from one of the all-time greats. He's an ironman, but that's about it.
Flame away, but Brett Favre is putting his own selfish interests ahead of the team and community. If he doesn't make a decision by draft day, then cut him!
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Second, far from an all time great? Really? You honestly feel that way? You sure it's not the caffeine talking this morning? I would put Favre in top 10 all time...and by no means am I a Favre apologist.
His only claim to fame is his durability? So the 3 MVPs, second all time in TDs thrown mean nada?
Come on man.
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Huh? If one of my friends pulled what Chmura did I wouldn't back him either. Favre's "drug addiction" was pain killers, which is very different than the context you were implying.
He's far from one of the all-time greats. He's an ironman, but that's about it.
Favre is one of the top five QB's of all time in my opinion.
But he needs to make a decision yesterday or the day before.
Since when is addiction a free pass for anything? He was addicted to drugs, and last time I checked painkillers was a drug.
'95-'97 were his best three years, but let's remeber how great those teams were also. They were on par with Dallas and San Fran, which is really saying something. He was really good during those three years, but he didn't do that for an entire career.
Hey, Brett, how about teaching the nuances of the game to your understudy so the team will be better prepared after you leave?
There's a valuable roster spot available. Do you want it or not?
I agree with gator farve is being selfish. and yes he did have 3 mvp season but last 6 years he is way overrated..he throws more picks in big situations then any other QB.
Second, to say he's overrated in any capacity is absolutely ludicrous. If anything, he's UNDERRATED. He's number 2 all time in completions, TDs, and yards. Passing completion percentage over 60%...yeah he sucks, right?
He's always thrown interceptions, this is nothing new, comes from him being unafraid to go for it...that's what winners do.
And teaching the nuances of the game to his understudy? uhh that's not his job. That's the job of the QB coach. Did Montana teach Young? Did Elway teach anyone? Marino? Bueller?
Id rather have aikman anyday of the week and twice on sunday! yeah farve was great in 90's. in the years 2000 and on never impressed with him.
If you like him so much go out and buy his jersey..
playoff stats from 2001-present 9 td's and 14 ints in 6 games.
Why is it he can lay out while criticizing others for doing the same thing? Javon Walker holds out, and Brett publicly calls him out. Hipocrite.
I agree he should let the Packers know a bit sooner about what his plans are...fine. Another thing do you forget what he has dealt with? Family deaths, wife gets sick and he still goes out there and gives it his all. I also agree the past few seasons he has not been the old Favre but he is a gamer and always will be. PLEASE
I'm not sure why there is so much animosity towards Favre here. He's everything you want in a football player; gutty, doesn't let little knicks and bumps get in his way, and plays his guts out every single Sunday. Anyone remember him going out the night after his dad died and playing lights out against Oakland?
And he's been junk since 2000? 3 years since 2000 with passer ratings over 90, and a fourth over 85. Yes, junk.
Yes you are all right...he's completely overrated.
get real.
<< <i>Brett Favre is a sure fire HOF'er and by far on of the games greatest QB's you got to be kidding me for not giving him more respect. Favre has mvp's, super bowl ring's, plays his heart out, has great stats, and yes he is an ironman. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM HIM?
I agree he should let the Packers know a bit sooner about what his plans are...fine. Another thing do you forget what he has dealt with? Family deaths, wife gets sick and he still goes out there and gives it his all. I also agree the past few seasons he has not been the old Favre but he is a gamer and always will be. PLEASE >>
Oh, he'll get in to the HoF, but not for the reasons you laid out. The media loves this guy and gives him a free pass on everything. There's plenty of players with a ring, MVP trophy, and play with heart, but that doesn't mean they get in the HoF.
He had a nice three year run, and that's it. See above posts for his stats.
Besides, this not about whether he deserves to be in the HoF. It's about him being SELFISH! He could give a rip about the team, the town, or anything else but himself.
If he doesn't let the team know his plans by the start of the draft, then cut him.
Kuhlman, good job looking at Favre's last few postseasons. Now do the same for Aikman! All the post seasons after Aikman won his last Super Bowl 'he' was 1-4, with 2 touchdowns and 8 INTERCEPTIONS. What is so good about that where you would take him twice on Sunday?
These are just more classic examples of selective sampling used by biased sports fans to make an invalid point.
THrow that garbage ring talk out the window, as Favre and Aikman are near the top of the lists as reasons why TEAMS win super bowls, and not a single player. Neither one of them would EVER HAVE A SUPERBOWL IF THEY DID NOT HAVE A TOP FLIGHT DEFENSE IN THOSE YEARS. Aikman also had ALL-PROS at nearly every position, and players that deserved that recognition.
Fellas, here is one to chew on for Favre. Add Emmitt Smith's rushing TD's for his career, and Troy Aikman's passing Td's for his career, AND THEY ARE STILL 67 TOUCHDOWNS AWAY FROM FAVRE' TD PASSES! Favre did that with a certainly less supporting offensive cast than Emmit and Troy had. That makes it all the more impressive.
Kuhlman, I like your hypocrisy! You have very strong high and mighty feelings towards Favre for his drug addiction, yet what do you make of the house that the dallas Cowboys used for a drug paradise?? And yes, most would look differently at Favre taking pain killers to help with an ailment, as opposed to a bunch of rich Dallas Cowboys doping up on every recreational drug imaginable just to get high for the heck of it.
H Y P O C R I S Y That should be the mantra of the biased sports fan.
I just stated a FACT that pain killers are a class 1 narcotic same as cocaine and roids. you get caught with any of those without a prescription you goto jail.
I dont like farve i never will. you have your opionions on him being the greatest i have mine. I dont give a sh$t about aikmans stats and how many cowboys did drugs.. i never said farve was a bad person for taking pain pills. JUST LIKE ILL NEVER SAY MCGWIRE OR BONDS ARE BAD PEOPLE FOR TAKING ROIDS!
you want to be a computer typing tuff guy calling me a hypocrit? skin pinch you and all your stat bullsh$t how old are you?
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What is so good about that where you would take him twice on Sunday?
ONLY THING THAT MATTERS AIKMAN 3-0 IN SUPERBOWLS........ FARVE 1-1 THATS WHY I WOULD TAKE HIM TWICE ON SUNDAY!
<< <i> Gator, I like how you take away Favre's three best seasons. Do the same thing for Aikman! Take away Aikman's three best seasons and he has 111 Touchdowns, and 114 INTERCEPTIONS!! How impressive is that?? >>
Well, it's not impressive at all. But I never made any comparisons to Aikman or anybody else for that matter. I really don't care about Favre's stats. I really don't care if he's a first ballot HoFer. Somewhere along the way this thread became about stats. I could give a rip about his stats.
This thread is all about how selfish Brett Favre is. Here's the facts:
-He publicly refused to help groom his successor, Aaron Rodgers.
-He abandoned his close friend Mark Chmura when he was arrested, and NEVER showed any support for him publicly or privately even though he was later exonerated.
-He himself was addicted to pain killers. He got a pass for this one apparently. Isn't Rush Limbaugh facing prosecution for this same thing?
-Publicly criticzed Javon Walker for holding out, while he's now leaving the entire organization flapping in the breeze with the draft right around the corner.
But hey he's got a ring MVP trophies, stats galore, heart, blah, blah, blah............SO WHAT?!? He's still a selfish jerk who only cares about himself.
So, spare me the HoF analysis and stat vomit. I've yet to see anything to refute my claim of selfishness.
No question he is a first ballot HOFer. Great career. But his body has been banged up quite a bit and guys like that usually go on a very rapid decline, not a gradual decline. Many other teams might have already traded him...remember they traded/released Joe Montana and I thought Montana had some gas left in the tank at the time. I don't think Favre really has anything left.
Because he's not sure if the single biggest decision in his life is made up? What does he do if he 'retires', then gets the juices flowing in june, and wants to come back? You'd crucify him! He can't win in this situation, not when people are ready to string him up no matter which decision he makes.
Where are the 'Roger Clemens is Selfish!!!' thread? He's doing the same exact thing...but he gets a 'pass' because he's the rocket? Hypocrisy at its finest.
Favre owes NOTHING to green bay, and they owe NOTHING to him. He's given the best years of his life, the best years of a top 5 or top 10 all time QB to this team. In return, they've made him a multi multi millionaire.
But to sit there and say he had only 3 good years is absolutely, positively ABSURD. If Favre played for the Cowboys, you'd be railing how he's the best QB to ever put on a uni.
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This thread is all about how selfish Brett Favre is. Here's the facts:
-He publicly refused to help groom his successor, Aaron Rodgers.
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That's not his job. He's not there to groom a QB, he's there to win games and be the best QB he can be. Let the QB coach do the coaching. How many former players have turned into great coaches, in any sport?
<< <i>-He abandoned his close friend Mark Chmura when he was arrested, and NEVER showed any support for him publicly or privately even though he was later exonerated. >>
You're going to sit there and tell me you'd show a friend support who was being accused of sexual improprieties with a minor? Come on, we all know that it makes SENSE to keep that distance.
<< <i>-He himself was addicted to pain killers. He got a pass for this one apparently. Isn't Rush Limbaugh facing prosecution for this same thing? >>
Favre never came out and slammed Clinton for using marijuana. Favre never said drug users should be in jail and never see the light of day. BIG BIG differerence, buddy.
<< <i>-Publicly criticzed Javon Walker for holding out, while he's now leaving the entire organization flapping in the breeze with the draft right around the corner. >>
Again, these aren't the same things. Walker wasn't pondering retirement, he wanted more cash. Favre isn't holding out to get more money, he's pondering if he will be involved in football anymore. Not exactly a flip decision.
<< <i>But hey he's got a ring MVP trophies, stats galore, heart, blah, blah, blah............SO WHAT?!? He's still a selfish jerk who only cares about himself. >>
And how many times have you put work ahead of your own personal interests? You've NEVER put yourself first? If you are, you're the only person alive who hasn't.
<< <i>So, spare me the HoF analysis and stat vomit. I've yet to see anything to refute my claim of selfishness. >>
Because you don't want to. You don't want to see anything but 'I HATE BRETT FAVRE!' And for that, I pity you.
You got caught with bias and hypocrisy in your statments, not to mention selective sampling. You got caught with your pants down. You stated Brett Favre's post season stats from later in his career to formulate a reason why he wasn't that good. When you do something like that, don't forget to apply it to the person you have a man crush on.
Well, I supplied that informatin for you. I still ask, what is so impressive about 'Aikman' going 1-3 with 2 TD's and 8 INT in the playoffs after his team wasn't as good as during the Super Bowl years?? So impressive that you would take him twice on Sundays?
I'll state again, neither FAVRE OR AIKMAN have ANY super bowl rings without the team they had around them. Aikman simply had a BETTER team for LONGER. That is the only difference for 'rings' I don't have bias, I apply the same thing to Favre as Aikman. You have extreme bias as you got your panties in a bunch because I put your hero in a bit of a different light than you care to know.
If I am your enemy, then you are on the wrong side of truth and accuracy, as that is what I simply provide. No bias agenda's like most.
Gator, it would be hard to argue that he isn't being selfish right now. He is being a prima donna just like all professional athletes are. The only professional athlete who probably wan't selfish was Turk Wendell. But selfishness wasn't your only point. You included overrated and not being an all time great. First, overrated depends on who is rating him and what he is being rated. All-time great depends where exactly. Making him the best ever is overrating him. Putting him in the top 10 range isn't bad.
P.S. Durability is important in a QB, just ask the coaches of Steve Young.
That is what pissed me off skin pinch.bc i never said farve was a drug addict. I just stated a FACT that pain pills are a class 1 narcotic just like cocaine and roids. your the one who put the dallas cowboys under the light with your statement bc maybe 4 or 5 bad eggs.
remember when rush limbuagh got nailed with pain pills. well sports talk radio down here called him just as bad as a crack head. this went on for months. he blasted mcnabb then the media down here in atlanta. the 2 live stews for the most part kept calling him a crack head saying pain pills are just as bad.
as for farve and aikman. I have my opionion you have yours. if aikman didnt suffer many concussions his stats would be way up there also.
no matter how much you guys type about farve and his stats. you will never convince me to like him, or respect him. very glad he is not a cowboy. id rather have mcnabb on the cowboys before farve...like is said i just dont like the guy!
i truly believe that the new packer management will stare this PRIMA DONNA of PRIMA DONNA's down and we will either retire or be traded. i am so sick of him and "his streak". how about when laid down for strahan to give him the sack record. if that were any other quarterback they would been ripped, but old #4 gets his teflon pass.
if you truly dislike favre you will want him to come back and embarrass himself again. i don't know if a few more 48-3 games on national tv will get it into his pea sized brain, but we can all get a good laugh at again.
cal ripken jr. ended his streak with class and no fanfare, favre is 180 degrees from that.
I am a Viking's fan, but not a Farve basher. I would have loved to have had him in purple and gold. I do think he should make his announcement instead of letting the organization twist in the wind.
Perhaps his performances against the Vikes were below his norm, but I would have to say he is a little overrated. I might put him in the top 10 of all-time QB's, but near the bottom. Still pretty good. He did seem to be raised to godlike status and I think he might have gotten one too many MVP's.
What bothered me the most is his setting a date for his big announcement and then not making his decision.
I do not care to criticize him because of his problem with painkillers, my God, pro football players must play in more pain than any athletes I can think of. He may have abused drugs but they were originally prescribed medications, weren't they? Slightly different than street drugs.
JoeBanzai
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This thread is all about how selfish Brett Favre is. Here's the facts:
-He publicly refused to help groom his successor, Aaron Rodgers.
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That's not his job. He's not there to groom a QB, he's there to win games and be the best QB he can be. Let the QB coach do the coaching. How many former players have turned into great coaches, in any sport? >>
God forbid he give back to the team just a little bit and help contribute to their success after he's gone.
<< <i>-He abandoned his close friend Mark Chmura when he was arrested, and NEVER showed any support for him publicly or privately even though he was later exonerated. >>
<< <i>You're going to sit there and tell me you'd show a friend support who was being accused of sexual improprieties with a minor? Come on, we all know that it makes SENSE to keep that distance. >>
He could have at least PRIVATELY supported him. He never made one single phone call to Chmura. A friend in need is a friend indeed. I can see you'll be there for your friends during the bad times.
<< <i>-He himself was addicted to pain killers. He got a pass for this one apparently. Isn't Rush Limbaugh facing prosecution for this same thing? >>
<< <i>Favre never came out and slammed Clinton for using marijuana. Favre never said drug users should be in jail and never see the light of day. BIG BIG differerence, buddy. >>
Doesn't change the fact he used. I will grant this is the least of my gripes with him, however.
<< <i>-Publicly criticzed Javon Walker for holding out, while he's now leaving the entire organization flapping in the breeze with the draft right around the corner. >>
<< <i>Again, these aren't the same things. Walker wasn't pondering retirement, he wanted more cash. Favre isn't holding out to get more money, he's pondering if he will be involved in football anymore. Not exactly a flip decision. >>
Really? Then why have the Packers pushed back his deadline for his $3 mil roster bonus FOUR times? Because he's holding the team's future hostage. The reasons may be different, but both holdouts hurt the team.
<< <i>But hey he's got a ring MVP trophies, stats galore, heart, blah, blah, blah............SO WHAT?!? He's still a selfish jerk who only cares about himself. >>
<< <i>And how many times have you put work ahead of your own personal interests? You've NEVER put yourself first? If you are, you're the only person alive who hasn't. >>
Actually, plenty of times. I own a small business, and it's critical that I'm there. So yes, I have cancelled plans, worked while sick, etc. But I'm not looking for special treatment because it's my job. With what he gets paid to throw picks he should be there. You shouldn't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do.
<< <i>So, spare me the HoF analysis and stat vomit. I've yet to see anything to refute my claim of selfishness. >>
<< <i>Because you don't want to. You don't want to see anything but 'I HATE BRETT FAVRE!' And for that, I pity you. >>
I'm not a fan of the Pack or Favre. But he's been getting a free pass for years, and nobody wants to call him on it. I will. He's selfish, and he should be cut if he doesn't make a decision by draft day.
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God forbid he give back to the team just a little bit and help contribute to their success after he's gone.
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He doesn't owe the team ANYTHING. Please point out how Aikman groomed his successor, or how Elway, Montana, or Marino groomed their successor. Please? You keep ripping Favre over this, but it's par for the course. He's not a coach.
<< <i>He could have at least PRIVATELY supported him. He never made one single phone call to Chmura. A friend in need is a friend indeed. I can see you'll be there for your friends during the bad times.
(a) How do you know he didn't make a single phone call? (b) I think you are being a bit unfair...if you had a friend who had been brought up on child molestation/statuatory rape charges, you'd be on the horn? Please. You'd distance yourself just like all of us would.
<< <i>Doesn't change the fact he used. I will grant this is the least of my gripes with him, however. >>
/sigh. Come on now...he took them on a prescription, to ease the pain, then got addicted. I am not excusing it, but it's not like he was taking recreational drugs. Not like he was trying meth, weed, or coke.
<< <i>Really? Then why have the Packers pushed back his deadline for his $3 mil roster bonus FOUR times? Because he's holding the team's future hostage. The reasons may be different, but both holdouts hurt the team. >>
It's APRIL. Has their been a draft? Do they need a QB? Last time I checked, they signed Aaron Rogers last year.
<< <i>Actually, plenty of times. I own a small business, and it's critical that I'm there. So yes, I have cancelled plans, worked while sick, etc. But I'm not looking for special treatment because it's my job. With what he gets paid to throw picks he should be there. You shouldn't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do. >>
So you do those things for your own self interest. If you were working for someone else instead of yourself, you wouldn't have cancelled plans, worked while sick, etc. You do it because you have to as a small business owner.
<< <i>I'm not a fan of the Pack or Favre. But he's been getting a free pass for years, and nobody wants to call him on it. I will. He's selfish, and he should be cut if he doesn't make a decision by draft day. >>
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. What 'free pass'? Because he's not sure about calling it a career?
You Favre haters are quite silly. Trying to bash one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game is beyond silly...you're letting your personal team's alliances get in the way of objectively see Favre.
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God forbid he give back to the team just a little bit and help contribute to their success after he's gone.
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<< <i>He doesn't owe the team ANYTHING. Please point out how Aikman groomed his successor, or how Elway, Montana, or Marino groomed their successor. Please? You keep ripping Favre over this, but it's par for the course. He's not a coach. >>
I'm talking about Favre, not Aikman, etc. Stay on point. Not helping groom a successor is selfish. Period.
<< <i>He could have at least PRIVATELY supported him. He never made one single phone call to Chmura. A friend in need is a friend indeed. I can see you'll be there for your friends during the bad times.
<< <i>(a) How do you know he didn't make a single phone call? (b) I think you are being a bit unfair...if you had a friend who had been brought up on child molestation/statuatory rape charges, you'd be on the horn? Please. You'd distance yourself just like all of us would. >>
A.) Mark Chmura said so. B.) You understand there is a difference between being charged and convicted, right? I have helped two friends who were arrested. One was convicted, one was not. They are still my friends. Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty.
<< <i>Doesn't change the fact he used. I will grant this is the least of my gripes with him, however. >>
<< <i>/sigh. Come on now...he took them on a prescription, to ease the pain, then got addicted. I am not excusing it, but it's not like he was taking recreational drugs. Not like he was trying meth, weed, or coke. >>
He got a pass from the media on this one. Poor Brett, playing through pain. Now we know how he did it.
<< <i>Really? Then why have the Packers pushed back his deadline for his $3 mil roster bonus FOUR times? Because he's holding the team's future hostage. The reasons may be different, but both holdouts hurt the team. >>
<< <i>It's APRIL. Has their been a draft? Do they need a QB? Last time I checked, they signed Aaron Rogers last year. >>
Maybe if Brett had made his decision when he said he would, they could have picked up a decent QB through free agency like Culpepper, Brees, etc.
<< <i>Actually, plenty of times. I own a small business, and it's critical that I'm there. So yes, I have cancelled plans, worked while sick, etc. But I'm not looking for special treatment because it's my job. With what he gets paid to throw picks he should be there. You shouldn't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do. >>
<< <i>So you do those things for your own self interest. If you were working for someone else instead of yourself, you wouldn't have cancelled plans, worked while sick, etc. You do it because you have to as a small business owner. >>
You just made my point for me. Just he played in 15,000 straight games doesn't mean he get to take forever to make up his mind on retirement. He played in 15,000 straight games because it was his job to do so.
<< <i>I'm not a fan of the Pack or Favre. But he's been getting a free pass for years, and nobody wants to call him on it. I will. He's selfish, and he should be cut if he doesn't make a decision by draft day. >>
<< <i>That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. What 'free pass'? Because he's not sure about calling it a career? >>
He's never been for any of the slfish chit he's done. He takes a dive for Strahan, and they criticize Strahan, not Favre. He's shown no loyalty to anybody but himself.
<< <i>You Favre haters are quite silly. Trying to bash one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game is beyond silly...you're letting your personal team's alliances get in the way of objectively see Favre. >>
Actually, good 'ole Brett is helping my team by taking his sweet-azz time.
Take your time Brett. It's a big decision, and the team and town can wait.
You say not to go back in time to compare him to other QBs who failed to mentor their replacements. I don't see how you can't go back in time, to see what history has shown to be the operating procedure for star QBs.
You say Favre has held on too long...shall we apply that to Marino, too? His last 3 years were by all accounts a mess, and he will be remembered by the shelling he took in his final playoff game against JAX, 62-7. Was he selfish?
I don't see how you can look at one QB and call him selfish without looking at the history of the position, and comparing his actions to them.
<< <i>So it seems that your gripes with Favre stem primarily of his refusing to teach young Aaron how to be a better QB, and the fact he's not sure if he wants to call it a career. Would I be accurate in that summation?
You say not to go back in time to compare him to other QBs who failed to mentor their replacements. I don't see how you can't go back in time, to see what history has shown to be the operating procedure for star QBs.
You say Favre has held on too long...shall we apply that to Marino, too? His last 3 years were by all accounts a mess, and he will be remembered by the shelling he took in his final playoff game against JAX, 62-7. Was he selfish?
I don't see how you can look at one QB and call him selfish without looking at the history of the position, and comparing his actions to them. >>
Actually, it's not one thing in particular. It's a conglomeration of all his selfish acts. If it were just one thing, no big deal. But the selfish things outlined here are just what is public knowledge.
I don't care anything about what his on the field accomplishments are, or whether he's HoF material or not. I don't even care what others players have done throughout their career.
I'm talking about Brett Favre and his selfishness, period.
In light of all those things, of which 99% of the population would have missed work for, he put his devotion to the game AND green bay above it all. He played through those heartbreaking events, because that's what he does. So he doesn't 'get a pass' for not being sure about whether or not to retire, even though he's put his personal life and tragedies behind his playing?
I just don't get it. He gets no benefit for sticking it out through the worst personal times of his life, and you want to crucify him for not being sure about his retirement or not.
Sheesh no wonder pro athletes are typically so aloof to their fans. No matter what they do, it's never good enough.
Look, Ax. I can appreciate you wanting to defend Brett Favre and all. I'm sure he's just a swell guy. But in my opinion he's a selfish person. There's really nothing you have posted up until now that has made me reconsider my position.
It's not about one thing he's done. We all make mistakes. But it's a combination of things that I consider selfish.
He's a selfish player, and if he doesn't make up his mind, then cut him.
Ok, got it.
It really comes down to two possibilities:
1) The Packers already know that Favre is coming back. This is judging by GM Ted Thompson not spending any money on a free agent QB, third string QB Craig Nall bolting for Buffalo (since he could only be third string or worse again behind Favre and Rodgers), and it would help them decide what they plan to do with the #5 pick in the draft. This scenerio has already been reported by some website, perhaps profootballtalk.com?
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2) Favre is not coming back and hasn't told the team. Favre has made mention lately to local news media that if they (the Packers) don't appear to have a competitive team, he's done. Tightwad Ted Thompson has not made the team any better during free agency (possibly could be worse since letting yet another starting OL Flanagan go to Houston, after Wahle and Rivera last year). So the draft is one thing Favre may be looking at or possibly recent visits to GB by Lavar Arrington and Charles Woodson (Thompson doesn't want to open the purse strings for either).
Lastly, one option I didn't outline is that Favre is coming back but hasn't told the team. If that is the case, he would be putting himself above the future of the TEAM, in my opinion.
Erik
<< <i>So the things I posted, such as his playing through his wife's life threatening illness, his family members dying, don't give him any leeway in your mind?
Ok, got it. >>
Good.
<< <i>Without reading this thread.... Favre can do whatever he darn well pleases to do, and has earned that right. Lay off Favre. Should spend your energies bashing their coaching and front office decisions instead. And this coming from a Vikings fan. >>
He hasn't earned the "right" to do anything. You earn what you get in pro sports.
His selfishness has left the team flapping in the breeze and they have missed out on some nice free agents that were available.
But hey, he's Brett Favre, so he can take all the time he needs.
Josh