1842 Cent. Whats going on here?

Bruceswar

Take a look and tell me what you think is going on with the front of this coin. Thanks in Advance.

clackamas

very old damage

Rob9874

Looks like it had been smashed on an uneven surface that left a mark. The reverse doesn't look flat, which shows more evidence that it was struck or flattened a bit.

Bruceswar

Thanks for the honest opinions

joecheck

Looks like a clash to me?!? But, I don't know if I'm experienced enough to lend an opinion.

PerryHall

There is a raised area below the chin that does not appear to be damage. Double struck coin or die clash?????

Bruceswar

The raised area under the chin is why I posted it.. Not sure what it is

fivecents

The raised area looks like the metal was pushed up from that huge cut above it.

Bruceswar

I can't see how that would happen, but it could

joecheck

IMO, if the metal was "pushed up" from a cut...it wouldn't have taken the shape of a stalk. I can't fathom how that shape could have formed without a die clash.

RG

Agree with the old damage assessment. There's also what appears to be thread marks to the left of the date that sort of line up with the thin end of the damage. Very small fine thread (watch part size) if that's what it is. Likely no die clash since there's no mirroring of the reverse image.

AuldFartte

I remember seeing an old coin with similar damage. It was done by stacking two coins together and smacking the top one with a hammer, if I recall the article correctly. I cannot remember why it was done, though.

PerryHall

<< <i>Agree with the old damage assessment. >>



Since this area is raised on the coin, the damage may have occurred to the die.

earlycoins1com

No, it is simply a coin that was damaged (metal was pushed upwards below the "cut"), and then the coin re-entered circulation. Dirt and wear mask much of the evidence, but some of it still remains.

PerryHall

<< <i>No, it is simply a coin that was damaged (metal was pushed upwards below the "cut"), and then the coin re-entered circulation. Dirt and wear mask much of the evidence, but some of it still remains. >>



Sorry, but I don't buy your theory. The raised area extends too far away from the cut and the bottom border of the raised area curves around and away from the cut which is straight. Looks like damage to the die but since we weren't there when it was struck, its all conjecture on our part.

topstuf

Top of reverse is bottom of obverse. Reverse indented, obverse raised. It got squooshed between something somehow.

relayer

Somebody built in a chin rest

Bruceswar

Thanks for the opinions

Conder101

The "raised area under the chin and extending out into the field is not raised at all. It is the original serface and the area around it has been pressed DOWN. Notice how the chin, bust tip, and top of the one have been flattened down to the level of the field.

Artist

If the metal is raised above the fields and device as the photo seems to suggest, and if I had to venture a guess, I would say it looks similiar to a clashed die - but instead of the dies clashing on themselves, perhaps some debris got on the die and left an impression.