While talking with a fellow customer at the local coin shop...
gil
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I show off my 38d ms66 buffalo ngc which I purchased at a local coin show on Sunday. he looked at it and said "these are common, a dime a dozen". Now I know the 38d is a common date, I like the strike,detail etc... and this guy is a large wholesaler from up north, buys huge quantities of material. I know he was being honest but felt like I was stepped on. Maybe in his world it was common and cheap but to me , I am proud of it.
A friend of mine said I was being too sensitive and If I like it then so what..... So why does his opinion overshadow how I feel about the coin now that he said that.
A friend of mine said I was being too sensitive and If I like it then so what..... So why does his opinion overshadow how I feel about the coin now that he said that.
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if u like it,screw that dealer !
1. Really? In that case I'll take one dozen, here's a Rosevelt dime I got from the soda machine.
2. They're not to the people who enjoy collecting them.
to understand the truth behind what that dealer said.
very few coins deserve two looks.
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<< <i>I show off my 38d ms66 buffalo ngc which I purchased at a local coin show on Sunday. he looked at it and said "these are common, a dime a dozen". Now I know the 38d is a common date, I like the strike,detail etc... and this guy is a large wholesaler from up north, buys huge quantities of material. I know he was being honest but felt like I was stepped on. Maybe in his world it was common and cheap but to me , I am proud of it.
A friend of mine said I was being too sensitive and If I like it then so what..... So why does his opinion overshadow how I feel about the coin now that he said that.
Some people can only appreciate coins if the price tag is over a certain dollar amount. Anyone who cannot appreciate a common coin is a coin snob.
I may have to buy one. I could care less how common they are.
But not every one wants to collect just errors.
And very few can afford high grade key dates.
So most collectors collect mostly common coins.
That does not mean we do not enjoy our coins.
And really who cares what the jerks think of them.
Everything they have is "choice", "hard to find", "one in a million", everything you have is "a gift", "lucky to make that grade", "nothing special".
Don't let that stuff get you down, it's the nature of the beast.
If he told you it was awsome and wanted to buy it from you, that "awsome" just added 5% or 10% to the value.
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Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
Sometimes I will show people my collection, which includes mostly toned bust halves and bust/seated type. But, some of my favorite coins are perfect circs, coins like this VF35 barber half. I have literally had people ask me, "why is THAT in there?" or, "why would you even pay to slab that"?. When people ask something like that, it is usually because they dont think before they speak. And since they are saying exactly what they are thinking, it shows that they are really ignorant in some areas of the market. Most people, including dealers, have certain areas of the market that they are proficient and knowledgeable in. The rest to them is unimportant.
I personally like your buff that you bought. I know that even with a common coin, an uncommon look or quality can make it worth quite a bit. Take for example this 38-D PCGS MS66 buff. I paid 250$ for it!!! It was in an ogh holder and has the look of a 67+. I wouldnt sell it for 100% over what I paid because to me it is worth it. So, when people say something insensitive or ignorant, just let it slide off your back. Most likely they werent doing it on purpose.
John
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<< <i>I show off my 38d ms66 buffalo ngc which I purchased at a local coin show on Sunday. he looked at it and said "these are common, a dime a dozen". Now I know the 38d is a common date, I like the strike,detail etc... and this guy is a large wholesaler from up north, buys huge quantities of material. I know he was being honest but felt like I was stepped on. Maybe in his world it was common and cheap but to me , I am proud of it. >>
I would have called him on it. I would have reached into my pocket and pulled out two dimes plus a dollar bill, gave them to him and told him "OK Mr. Bigshot, I will take a dozen the next time you stop in". I would have done this in front of the owner and then walked out and when I saw him the next time in the store, I would inquire were my dozen 38D buffs in MS 66 were.
Tim
Common and cheap has no bearing what so ever on the beauty of the coin. Remember that!
I have coins worth thousands of dollars and I have coins barely worth face value. And guess what? I love them all!
People like him, who see merchandise like your coin everyday, grow insenitive to the "Collector".
If, however, he was to try to SELL you that coin......I'm sure "dime a dozen" would not even enter his vocabulary.
All the good things he would say to you in his sales speech about your coin are what your coin truly means........
TO YOU!
It's the difference between buying, selling, and being insensitive.
Pete
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Like the others said, let it slide.
<< <i>While he might be honest, he was in the wrong. The way he came across to you is what is wrong. But on one hand he is right., its the same as you calling a 1954 penny that grades VF a dime a dozen. To someone that coin means alot and they might feel the same way. If you had only owned 1 or 2 1938 D MS 66 Buffalo then naturally it would be fun and exciting, but it you had owned 200 or so, then it becomes another coin. Just some thoughts >>
^I agree with this comment
and I can also see me making a comment like this...
<< <i>"these are common, a dime a dozen". >>
doesnt mean I know what I am talking about though
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Is it snobby? Probably. But it's the same as calling a Realtor to tell them you found the perfect house and called another agent.
It's not personal. It's just a business. It's normal for collectors to want to show off their acquisitions but the local coin shop is not the venue for it.
Sometimes people will put a dealer on a search for something and inquire constantly and the dealer is even diligently searching to fill the order when the collector comes in and shows him that his efforts were in vain. And then goes into detail about where, when, how, etc. The dealer may have just lost a sale. He will probably also lose FUTURE sales to that customer for not showing appreciation of the coin, but in some instances won't care.
I would just suggest that coin showing take place amongst your collector friends who have the interest in your collection and theirs.
Just my 2 bits.
When you look at a 1938-D NGC66 nickel, you may see a special, high-grade type coin, one that displays the gorgeous design beautifully - perhaps you even grew up collecting ones where you could barely read the date, and to you owning this coin marks a major step forward for you and your collection. Consider that when you see such a coin, you see it through the eyes of collector and weigh it according to your love of your hobby.
A dealer may look at a 1938-D NGC66 nickel, and see the most commonly saved type II date of the whole series, a date that is almost always well-struck and is often encountered in MS66 - perhaps more than once - parhaps your dealer may even have had to dissapoint a customer who thought for sure thier nickel must be worth a fortune. That is because when a dealer sees such a coin, he views it through the eyes of a professional and is primarily concerned with how it fits into his business.
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I work as a producer, and part of my job is casting models for shoots. Somedays, I will see a parade of 200+ of the most beautful women walk before me auditioning for a role, and after a while, I get desensitized to it, to where only a few truly stand out. Indeed, some of the things my associates and I banter about in discussing our choices would be downright cruel outside of the context of the business at hand, but the fact it, we have a job to do. In contrast, when it comes to how I view women in my personal life, I would never in a million years regard them in such a shallow, judgemental way.
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Hope some of you really meant it, and monitor your comments on these boards accordingly.
Remember, all coins are ho-hum to somebody.
If we are going to be afraid of the response then don't show the coin.
Thats my take on it anyway.
Leo
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I hope you handed him a dollar, and said, "I'll take 3 rolls, please!"
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Gee, isn't it amazing that a coin wholesaler would have no people skills.
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<< <i>Gee, isn't it amazing that a coin wholesaler would have no people skills. >>
I think we can probably give him a little bit of a break. If he's a wholesaler, he's used to dealing with other dealers who know what he's talking about. They don't spend their time discussing the merits of one MS-65 1881S Morgan with another. Just a waste of his time!
One probably shouldn't expect any encouragement from him.
By the way....I have a '38D in MS-66 as well. Maybe we should start a picture post thread, and discuss the relative merits of all of the '38D, 66 Buffalos?
for that fact as they are beautiful coins that often come well-struck, with booming luster in
Gem+ grades - all at a reasonable price. They are perfect type coins.
Wouldn't it be nice if there was at least one date in every series back to the 1700's that
were so obtainable?
Ken
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You should have told him, "if that's the case, then I'll give you a dime for every dozen you have!!!" Some people just don't get it!
BTW, don't give a second thought to what he said, you've got a
Collect what you like period
<< <i>Unfortunately the 1938-D Nickel in MS66 is very common and nicely struck problem free examples can be found by the hundreds if not thousands at a time. >>
Unfortunate? I think it's great. It means that lots of people can own an attractive, reasonably priced Buff if they choose to
Life is full of common people, many of us are such, all we need to do is seperate the ones with good intentions vs the bad or indefferent. There is a difference. We all do have our bad days though and the good ones too. Your impressions are unique to you and nobody else, alright, so he had a good day or bad as the case may seem, you can decipher the differences without too much hind sight. You like your coins, so tell people why and I wouldn't worry about others.
You said, you were proud of it. That's all that matters man.
Just when the mint started get these things right, they quit making them.
anyway, small brains can say stupid things let it go.
If you love the coin, then who cares what he thinks or for that matter, what anybody else thinks!
Peace!
Steve
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There are 295,734,134 people in the U.S. Most of them don't own a 38-D. Dealers see things differently than collectors. I'd rather be a collector.
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<< <i>Unfortunately the 1938-D Nickel in MS66 is very common and nicely struck problem free examples can be found by the hundreds if not thousands at a time. >>
Unfortunate? I think it's great. It means that lots of people can own an attractive, reasonably priced Buff if they choose to
I'm building a 20th century type set from across the street at NGC for my brother, who resides in the metal-detector end of the hobby. He was amazed to see the 1938-D MS66 Buffalo I got him for Christmas, insisting that I had spent way too much on his gift. I think it was $42 with shipping from eBay.
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Thank goodness the 1938-D Buffalo was saved in such large numbers and most in gem MS condition!!
Reasonable cost of same has allowed me to aquire several beautys for my collection.
If only the Standing Liberty Quarter had had just one date saved like this! I can dream can't I?